Note that OSPFv3 can also support advertisement of IPv4 prefixes - see RFC
5838. 

Thanks,
Acee 

-----Original Message-----
From: Juliusz Chroboczek <[email protected]>
Date: Sunday, June 1, 2014 6:07 AM
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: [homenet] Routing over IPv6 [was: Single or Multiple
Routing Protocols...]

>> [...] IPv6, where routers communicate using link-local addresses.  For
>> what it's worth, Babel is quite able to establish adjacencies before
>> addressing is up as well as in pure IPv4 networks.
>
>I've received a few questions about this by private mail, so please let me
>lecture a little.  The chairs will let me know if that's too much of an
>off-topic for this list.
>
>Take a traditional single-stack routing protocol for IPv4, say RIPv2 or
>OSPFv2:
>
>  1. your neighbour database is indexed by (interface, IPv4) pairs;
>  2. your routes' next hops are (interface, IPv4) pairs.
>
>This means that you need to wait for an IPv4 address before you can do
>anything.  You can work around that by putting a (site-local) static IPv4
>on the loopback interface, but that involves some administrative overhead,
>and hence is not applicable to Homenet.
>
>Compare this with an IPv4 routing protocol that is layered directly above
>802.2, say a pure IPv4 implementation of ISIS:
>
>  1. your neighbour database is indexed by (interface, MAC) pairs;
>  2. your routes' next hops are (interface, IPv4) pairs.
>
>Since MAC addresses always exist, you can establish neighbour
>relationships
>as soon as the interface is up -- no need to wait for global addresses to
>be assigned.  If you're link state, you can start flooding as soon as the
>adjacency is up, which is pretty cool.  However, since next hops are IPv4
>addresses, you still cannot route until both you and your neighbour get
>assigned addresses.
>
>Now take the simple same single-stack protocol and port it to IPv6 (RIPng
>or OSPFv3):
>
>  1. your neighbour database is indexed by (interface, link-local IPv6);
>  2. your routes' next hops are (interface, link-local IPv6) pairs.
>
>If link-local IPv6 exist soon enough after the link is up, you get all of
>the benefits of a stable neighbour identifier -- you establish adjacencies
>and start flooding as soon as the interface is up and has a link-local
>IPv6.  In addition, since your next hops exist, you can start routing as
>soon as the interface is up -- a big win if the address distribution
>protocol is slow or unreliable.  Finally, you don't need to do anything
>special when you renumber, the next hops use stable identifiers.
>
>Consider now a double-stack protocol running over IPv6, such as Babel:
>
>  1. your neighbour database is indexed by (interface, link-local IPv6);
>  2. your routes' next hops are (interface, link-local IPv6) or
>     (interface, IPv4) pairs, depending on the address family.
>
>Here, for IPv6 you're just like the previous case; for IPv4, you need an
>address before you can route.  The effect is that a Babel router starts
>routing IPv6 as soon as the interface is up, but needs to delay installing
>IPv4 routes until both neighbouring interfaces have an IPv4 address.  In
>effect, when the address configuration protocol has a hiccup, IPv6 routing
>remains stable but IPv4 needs to reconverge.
>
>In summary, by running your routing protocol over IPv6, you get the
>advantages of the ISIS approach, but in addition you gain:
>
> (1) the ability to run over GRE tunnels and OpenVPN in "tun" mode;
> (2) much simpler implementation on Unix  -- no need to use raw sockets,
>     just plain RFC 3493.
>
>What you don't get is the conceptual elegance of proper layering.
>
>-- Juliusz
>
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