Pierre,

On 02/10/2014 02:58, Pierre Pfister wrote:
> Hello Benoit,
> 
> Looks like ANIMA’s goals are quite similar to Homenet’s
> indeed. 

Except that homenet has a limited scope and is well advanced
in its work.

> Please allow me to comment the charter.
> 
> 1. Why would you put the ‘negociation protocol’ in the
> charter (even last call in the milestones !) ? It seems fair
> to me that discussions about what should be the approach and
> solution happen after the WG creation, isn’t it ?

Not really. The details are all to be discussed of course, but
the concept is fundamental to autonomics: devices talk to each
other rather than receiving instructions from above. (As Rene
Struik has pointed out, there is another way to look at it,
state synchronization, but that's largely a difference of
terminology.)

> 
> 2. "A solution for distributed IPv6 prefix management within
> a network." -> Please have a look to HNCP
> (draft-ietf-homenet-hncp) + Prefix Assignment Algorithm
> (draft-ietf-homenet-prefix-assignement). Ha, and we have
> running open-source code for all this as well:
> https://github.com/sbyx/hnetd.

Yes, in the homenet context. It's a bit different in the carrier
context. What we are really after is a general mechanism for the
future. If we miss the homenet boat, that's our fault for
starting late. There is a lot to learn from homenet, in my opinion.

> 
> 3. "A solution for always-on, data plane independent
> connectivity between network elements (i.e., stable in the
> case of mis-configurations)." Sure the ‘data plane
> independent’ makes it a little bit more buzzy. But in the end
> this pretty much looks like the problem routing protocols are
> made to solve (The 'mis-configurations’ part is more about
> point 2.).

Yes, for the problem that routing protocols solve, they do a
good job. But we are talking about all the problems that routing
protocols don't solve.

   Brian

> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> - Pierre
> 
> 
> Le 1 oct. 2014 à 15:20, Benoit Claise <[email protected]> a
> écrit :
> 
>> Dear all,
>> 
>> Based on the previous UCAN BoF, we are considering having
>> an ANIMA WG: Autonomic Networking Integrated Model and
>> Approach This is now a proposed charter, under
>> consideration by the IESG. This is your chance to provide
>> feedback on http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/anima/charter/ 
>> Note also that a BoF has been requested, just in case. 
>> Since HOMENET was mentioned during the UCAN BoF, I thought
>> of double-checking with you guys.
>> 
>> Regards, Benoit
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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