I would support everything Jonathan says here and it echoes my experience of
amateur orchestras.

Cheers,

Lawrence

On 23 May 2010 11:33, Jonathan West <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> I think that you have to understand that an amateur group exists primarily
> for the enjoyment of the participants. Good music is only important to the
> extent that it enhances that enjoyment. My behaviour in an orchestra has
> always been based on this, and a recognition that politicking usually
> reduces the enjoyment of the group much more than better music improves it.
>
> In almost all amateur groups I have ever participated in, the principle
> behind seating in the wind has almost invariably been "Buggins Turn" - i.e.
> on basis of seniority, except where the the principal voluntarily steps
> aside. Only in one group I've participated in have wind vacancies been
> filled on the basis of audition.
>
> Because of my work, I've moved around a fair bit, and so I've joined quite
> a
> few orchestras in my time. Whatever my opinion of the first horn, I have
> been very careful to make it clear that I will occupy whichever chair is
> offered to me. If I'm asked my preference, I say that I prefer high parts
> to
> low, but I'll go wherever is thought best for the section as a whole.
>
> It sometimes happens that after he has heard me play for a while and I have
> gained his confidence, the first horn offers to rotate, so that for
> instance
> I play first for the overture &/or concerto while he does the symphony. If
> this happens, I accept gratefully and make it clear that even though we are
> rotating, I still regard him as section principal.
>
> Occasionally it will happen that the first horn voluntarily moves down. I
> don't ever do anything to encourage this, but if it happens and the rest of
> the section is OK with me moving up, then I'll do that.
>
> If the first horn is not up to snuff and remains attached limpet-like to
> the
> principal's chair, then the decision is whether to stay and accept it, or
> to
> move on to another group. The issue is not whether the first horn is better
> than me, but whether he is good enough to make a decent fist of being
> principal. My approach here has been to try and gain the first horn's
> confidence and see if he is willing to accept suggestions for improvement.
> If that gets nowhere, then I move on. That has happened to me just once.
>
> But on principle, I never attempt by politicking to remove a first horn in
> occupation. I've seen it happen in other sections in various orchestras and
> the bad feeling caused is hardly ever worth it, even if the attempt
> succeeds.
>
> I also dislike the idea of auditioning for specific pieces. It puts the
> players in competition with each other when they ought to be working to
> play
> as a team.
>
> Regards
> Jonathan West
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