I guess you could parlay this into the temp/full-time worker transition with most businesses. A lot of businesses will save money by hiring temps that can get on-the-job training and they can save money by not paying them full benefits like health or dental insurance or overtime. Salaried positions tend to involve more money than temporary workers who may not even be allowed overtime. I've been in this position myself with one job (non-music job). They found every excuse in the book to keep me as a 'temp hire' before switching me to a full employee. Eventually I found out that while they were paying the temp agency a cut, it was far less than the $10,000 a year they had to shell out (or so they said) to hire me full time. Once you start adding in 401ks, health, dental, and a possible pension, you could end up paying a good 10 or 20% over the salary just to make ends meet. As for music jobs, I've always said this and I'll keep saying it: There are more qualified players than there are openings just about anywhere you go (in the US). The chances that you'll make it with a comfortable salary as a horn player are slim. It never hurts to have a backup plan because living below the poverty line is never fun. Unfortunately not many teachers say this because they are the haves. It's difficult for the haves to warn the have-nots. -William In a message dated 8/11/2010 10:54:47 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes:
Sure subs use to be paid the same as a section fiddle player, or said another way, minimum contractual salary for the Philharmonic. Now subs (those hired on a week to week basis) get paid based on the CBA for freelance orchestras in NY about 25-30% less per week. Once they hire you for the season (I would need to check if there is a stipulation for long term other then the season) you are paid at the minimum Philharmonic rate. There are a whole set of issues arising around wanting people for the season but unwilling to commit for the season because of the increase in pay. On 8/11/10 10:45 AM, "Avrum H. Golub, M.D., J.D." <[email protected]> wrote: > What are the two tiers, Debbie? > Avrum > >> From: Debbie Schmidt <[email protected]> >> Reply-To: The Horn List <[email protected]> >> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 10:34:51 -0400 >> To: The Horn List <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [Hornlist] fitting in as part of getting a job >> >> Dan and it is cheaper since the Philharmonic went to a 2 tier pay system. >> >> >> On 8/11/10 10:26 AM, "PatentDan Feigelson" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hans, did you see the article last month in the New York Times about the >>> large >>> number of vacancies in the NY Philharmonic (not just in the horn >>> section)? It >>> could have been written by you. The article mentioned that it's not a lack >>> of >>> talented players but more a matter of finding someone who will fit into the >>> section that has resulted in so many vacancies. If anything, the number of >>> talented musicians in New York means the Philharmonic can take its time >>> filling the vacancies, since finding a substitute or extra for any >>> particular >>> series isn't difficult. >>> >>> DJF > > > _______________________________________________ > post: [email protected] > unsubscribe or set options at > https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/jasoncat%40aol.com _______________________________________________ post: [email protected] unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/valkhorn%40aol.com _______________________________________________ post: [email protected] unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
