Hi Val,

Wow, I found it so interesting to see you mention breathing through the mouth 
and nose at the same time.  A few years back at one of the horn symposiums.... 
I 
don't remember which one... my good friend Paul Mansur yelled at the group he 
was conducting.... "breath through your mouth and nose at the same time and you 
"can't" close your throat."  I don't know where Paul had learned to do that 
little trick, but I do know he studied with George Yaeger when George was 
playing first in the Oklahoma City Symphony.  George was playing first in the 
San Antonio Symphony when I was in the orchestra around forth five years ago.  


The upshot is:  I came home and tried to develop the same breathing technique, 
and even though I don't think I ever got it down perfect, it DID create an open 
throat, and as a reault I was able to get much bigger breathes.  Perhaps Paul 
learned it from George or from a singer, who knows.  But it really does work.  
I 
don't think you actually???? pull air in through both the mouth and nose at the 
same time, but the very act of trying opens the throat.  It seems that you 
CANNOT close your throat when you are breathing in through the both at the same 
time.  


Interesting!!!!  Oh yes, and I still work on doing that.  Especially when I 
hear 
this loud loud hissing when taking in a breath.  Ahhhhhhhh closed throat.  

 Milton
Milton Kicklighter
4th Horn Buffalo Philharmonic
Retired 




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From: valerie wells <[email protected]>
To: horn list 2 memphis <[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, October 12, 2010 3:20:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Hornlist] How to practice Kling 13

>Breathing is everything within etudes. Breath just before upbeats. Shorten any 
>note with a dot for the dot & breath there, but breath very quickly so to 
>remain 
>in the metronome set tempo. Realize also, that some etudes might be written 
>for 
>a single player & do not serve for anything for another player. Another 
>recommendation: try to sing it & find the "breath spots".<

This is great!  I looked over Kling #13 last evening after practicing.
I couldn't remember doing anything special with this etude other than
reading through it a few times several years ago.  I never thought of
it as being a breathing exercise.  (DUH!)  Thanks, Hans.  This gives
me a new perspective for approaching this and other etudes.

I've heard of singers using a special breathing method that helps them
draw in larger quantities more quickly.  The technique involves
inhaling through both the mouth and nose simultaneously.  I've seen
them learn how to do it quietly w/o making sniffy noises.  It didn't
work for me, but have any of you ever tried this with success?

Valerie Wells
The Balanced Embouchure Method
http://bebabe.wordpress.com/
http://www.beforhorn.blogspot.com/
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