The famous/ infamous No.22 in "Cosi fan tutte" is not that difficult, if one fingers all on the F-side including our c'/dfl with F2 (not F12) & just uses the Bb-side 2 for the g# (23) & the f# (2) & the following trill using F2 /0, c# on F2. Yes, 2nd horn (battere come secundo corno - the typical passage for 2nd horn) is on E-horn (all F2), except the f#, right on Bb2, perfect.
#################################################################### Am 15.02.2011 um 18:42 schrieb Chris Wilhjelm: > > I agree with you Hans. E has always been one of my favorite keys for > the horn. The only passage that used to give me a little extra practice > panic was the aria in Cosi. I am sure there are others, but I haven't > come across them in my limited experience. In the day when I was > playing stuff like this, I was playing a 103 and I had to play it on the > B flat side. When playing the second horn solo, I could stay on the F > side (though I threw the B flat down for the written F# at the top). > Had I the smarts (or the $$) to get an extended (or shortened) slide > like many of our illustrious well-known colleagues (or a stopping > valve), I would have made life a bit easier ... but what's the fun in > that?? > > As far as Armida is concerned, Scott is a long time friend (you are > friends as well?) and he is a fine player. When he tells me the parts > are tricky, I tend to believe him. > > Thanks for the recording suggestion. > > best > c > > > >>>> Hans Pizka <[email protected]> 2/15/2011 11:56 AM >>> > Hello Chris, what is so difficult on the horn soli within Rossinís > music ? is it the key ß Most of these soli > are in E. Ooops, that́s the main difficulty for the notorious Bb-side > players. But areńt these solos much easier > on the F-side ? And they do not go high either, but have very tricky > passages for the Bb-horn user. > > These soli are not longer than a few measures, like in "A Turk in > Italy" or "Il Barbiere". Every reasonable > horn player must be able to play them in public after reading or/and > playing them through just a few times. > > All these soli are quite common stuff. This like passages are all > included in the two Kopprasch books, - and > as they were written in a natural horn style, the technical > difficulties are limited, - except the tonality E, which > still horrifies the Bb-users & Bb-thinkers. > > Armida should not be any exception. As Rossinís father was a horn > player, Rossini knew very well, how to > write for the horn in a way, that his compositions could be performed > properly, even then back. > > ################################################################################### > Am 15.02.2011 um 14:55 schrieb Chris Wilhjelm: > >> >> As a dabbler in the conducting world I feel a real need to get out in > front of what's going to happen here (it's a conductor thing) >> >> Yes, I do know the difference between a bull and an orchestra, >> >> I feel sorry for the snake and I'm okay with no skid marks >> >> and I know that a conductor buried up to his neck in sand means that > you ran out of sand. >> >> of course this knowledge dates from the time before I turned from the > Force and went to the dark side. >> >> I was speaking to my friend Scott Brubaker on Sunday and he told me > that the Met Opera will be doing a set of performances of Rossini's > Armida starting next week (with Renee Fleming) >> I have NEVER heard this - he went on to say that there are big solos > for 1st and 3rd horn in the overture. Does anyone have an mp3 or know > of a good performance available? >> >> As an aside, The Ridgewood Concert Band is performing the Overture to > Siege of Corinth (another little played Rossini Opera with a beautiful > horn solo in the overture) Tuesday 2/22 (principal horn, Carolyn Kirby > is terrific). This will be a joint concert with the Texas Christian U. > Wind Symphony - info on the RCB website. >> >> best to all >> Chris >> >> >> >>>>> Walter Lewis <[email protected]> 2/15/2011 8:20 AM >>> >> Paul, >> >> As we all know, some conductors just need shooting! >> >> Steve Mumford and I know of one here in Metro Detroit that is so bad, > that he can't conduct electricity let alone a symphony orchestra. This > guy falls into the category I just mentioned. Shooting his would be the > only merciful thing to do for the sake of music. >> >> Walt Lewis, >> >> --- On Mon, 2/14/11, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Musicianship >> To: [email protected] >> Date: Monday, February 14, 2011, 10:35 PM >> >> Hey Jerry, >> >> What if it is a conducting class and someone is shooting at the >> conductor ?? >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jerry Houston <[email protected]> >> To: The Horn List <[email protected]> >> Sent: Mon, Feb 14, 2011 7:33 pm >> Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Musicianship >> >> On 02/14/2011 04:06 PM, David Goldberg wrote: >>> He might be on the illegal side too. I just looked for information >>> about this - it appears to be illegal in the USA. Recommend that >> anyone >>> interested in this, research first. >> >> You beat me to it. I was going to note the need for caution (or, at >> least, discretion). Disabling cell phones prevents folks from > using >> them for emergency purposes. If a student in the class, for > example, >> started shooting at folks (well, it's happened...), no one could > call >> 911 and report it. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> post: [email protected] >> unsubscribe or set options at >> > https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/corno911%40aol.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> post: [email protected] >> unsubscribe or set options at > https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/lewhorn9%40yahoo.com >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> post: [email protected] >> unsubscribe or set options at > https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/cwilhjelm%40pascack.k12.nj.us >> >> _______________________________________________ >> post: [email protected] >> unsubscribe or set options at > https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/hpizka%40me.com > > _______________________________________________ > post: [email protected] > unsubscribe or set options at > https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/cwilhjelm%40pascack.k12.nj.us > > _______________________________________________ > post: [email protected] > unsubscribe or set options at > https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/hpizka%40me.com _______________________________________________ post: [email protected] unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
