Dear Mr. Hans Pizka, you understood wrong this topic. First, I've posted this on the IHS forum, because I'm starting to be a little bored of seeing people making jokes and insults on this mailing list. The issue was related to the nomenclature of the "T" for the thumb. The topic was not "to play or not in F thats the question". I would like to please ask you to avoid writing ALL CAPS, because on the internet world this means I AM SCREAMING! I had the care of giving some references for Joseph Pehrson on his "Harmonic Etude"(1986) referes to the thumb as the 4th finger. 14, 124, 4, 2 etc... and Esa-Pekka Salonen on his "Concert Etude" (2000) uses Bb/12, F/13 Bb/3.... My statements where very flexible and international and not "Latino" as you said... F means the same in Germany and America and is quite similar to al the french and al the "Latinos world" Fa. But the B is not the same in America and Germany and for the "Latinos" system does't mean anything. That's why I suggested to have regular numbers for b-flat fingerings and F+numbers for the F fingerings. To answer some questions I've made a quiz at https://spreadsheets.google.com/a/ricardomatosinhos.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dHNlT2hDR0FCcmdnTEpWck1taHROa3c6MQ And until now the answers gave 45% of the people playing on a Bflat-F horn, and 76% said they play mostly in F (for these results only 45% were european). Even you replied this topic without using the "T" when you said "Same with the octave Jump F1-F2 at the beginning of Strauss op.11 Concerto as F1- Bb1 Fingering..." I've started to play on a horn standing on F, after two years I made the change and I'm glad I did. It was quite easy to change as I was on my early stages, but I think would be difficult for some one playing for several years. I fell that it makes sence since, now people play more and more in Bflat. Also having a horn standing on Bflat is logical since the more keys you press, larger will be the tube length. I do play on the both sides of the horn deppending on intonation, technique, sound coulor, but I play more in Bflat that in F. I didn't enjoyed your sad comments about the "Latinos" world, I kindly asked for an opinion on the IHS forum, I didn't offended anyone, but your depreciative commentary did in fact offended me and all the "Latinos", believe or not the 2nd world war is over long time ago... You say "Latinos" don't use the full double horn, I've recently published a small book with all the possibilities of the full double horn ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvcxxBNenQU ) You said "The Problem is just, that Most Latinos are INFLEXIBLE and UNWILLING" I'm not inflexible, ou estaria a escrever em português, isso seria inflexível, portanto dar-me ao trabalho de escrever numa lingua que não é a minha é por si sinónimo de flexibilidade (translate it please from portuguese, if you want to understand my point) You said the latinos "think their World As Be the Universe [...] they are Forced to translate everything according to their [...]Language & Grammar" the portuguese movies are not translated like in spain or france, or even brazil. Also you said "All this refusal of the F-Side or F-Horn is the Source of so many Intonation Problems, which could Be so over so easy, if Players would use both Sides , F & Bb Equally, according to the particular Intonation & Sound requirements." I use both sides of the horn for intonation, technique and sound requirements (see my book http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvcxxBNenQU ) You also said "Latinos also think "Concert" ." Thats not correct, I think in F, even if I'm playing in B-flat horn. Since I can remember I allways known Mr. Hans Pizka, from his Playing and his editions, I have much respect for all your work and I didn't really expected to have such depreciative and offensive commentary from you. I'f this kind of mood continues on this mailing list, I will have to sadly unsubscribe it.
Regards from Portugal Ricardo Matosinhos _______________________________________________ post: [email protected] unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
