But they had to replace Kirstin Flagstad. And the first horn changed. Other RING recordings: the Swarowsky RING with Sueddeutsche Symphony, which was Czech Philharmonic;
Yes, the Solti Ring was published as the first complete set. The takes were quite long, but there was some strong editing anyway. The Furtwaengler RING (both from Rome & from Milan) were live recordings, but not published for some years. The same happen with the Bayreuth RING cycles. One early Bayreuth publications is the RING with Karl Boehm on LP. I think, it was a financial problem then, as pressing the LPS asked for much higher investment than for todays CDs, as they cost less than 1/2 USD. The biggest problem was to pay the advance royalties to the singers & conductors. Today we have a different situation: these over 50 year old RING cycles can be published without paying any royalties to orchestra, conductor & singers. But they are very interesting. There should be a RING Cycle from Tiflis. Quality unknown. I have to check with Naxos about it. Also today, some orchestras, singers & conductors are just interested that their work with the RING might be conserved on CD, so they decline asking for any royalties. If the sale will be good or much better than expected, this excess income will be divided for the participants. Today there are no record companies who could afford a complete RING production or even a live recording. The recording companies doing such big projects, are more or less affiliated to the opera houses. Some are quite successful, but still impotent regarding the finances for such kind of a project, where every opera out of four would require an investment of minimum 200 to 500 TUSD before the first set would be sold. Most consumers have no idea about the additional promotion expenses, which go into the six digits also. I own about 25 different RING sets & I am still looking for some strange set. Thee could be one from Moscow, another one from St.Petersburg & from Warschaw. I do not know if they recorded it in Barcelona or Trieste or Venice (Suitner) or East Berlin. Another exciting RING set is with Barenboim (Bayreuth). ========================================================== -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Graeme Evans Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 10:45 PM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] seigfried's long call I think you will find the Decca Ring is the first complete version with no cuts or cast discontinuities in the main characters, and the first fully commercially released one. Cheers, Graeme Evans (Principal Horn, Melbourne Symphony Orchestra) +61 3 9318 0690(H), +61 419 880371(B), +61 3 93180893(Fax) E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'The Horn List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 11:39 PM Subject: RE: [Hornlist] seigfried's long call > My fault, indeed. Thinking of so many recordings (I have some 25 RING > sets here) I forgot the most important, perhaps. For me it is the most > important. But Graeme, it was not the first recording of the complete > RING. Moralt�s RING in Vienna & the RING with Furtwaengler were around > 1951. Both were productions, but one act as a one piece session & public > concert always. The 1937 RING of the MET is probably the oldest on > record, but it was live recorded. > > The SOLTI Ring is the first ever with the "Schnipsel Techique" (= takes > & cuts & takes & cuts again, but with superb result). There was no > audience. > =========================================================== > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Graeme Evans > Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 10:32 AM > To: The Horn List > Subject: Re: [Hornlist] seigfried's long call > > > Hans Pizka wrote: > > > There are numerous recordings of the RING on the market: > > > > Metropolitan Opera New York (Levine), Berlin Philharmonic (von > Karajan), > > Dresden (Janovski), Bayreuth (Kempe, Keilberth, Adam Fischer, Peter > > Schneider, & many others), Buenos Aires (2 sets Wallberg & Erich > > Kleiber), Graz (Klobucar), Karlsruhe, Vienna Symphony (Moralt), etc. > > To say nothing of the first complete "Ring" recording (Decca 1958 - > 1965) > with Solti/VPO/Nilsson/Windgassen/Crespin/Hotter etc. The Long Call is > played superbly by Roland Berger. > > Cheers, > > Graeme Evans > (Principal Horn, Melbourne Symphony Orchestra) > +61 3 9318 0690(H), +61 419 880371(B), +61 3 93180893(Fax) > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > _______________________________________________ > post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > set your options at > http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans.pizka%40t-online.de > > > _______________________________________________ > post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/graev%40comcen.com.au > > _______________________________________________ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans.pizka%40t-online.de _______________________________________________ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
