Hi Pierre
In the Users tab, I agree to remove the stats for each user. It should be
enough to highlight for each user the tasks done.. I also agree to remove the
Validate option. When we invalidate, we have the option to give a comment. This
would also be a good option to send and email to the user.
To show the tiles to be selected, I prefer the light grey like in the previous
version. I find this less confusing the the red color.
There are two circumstances where the message to invalidate a tile is showed.
I would treat these two events differently as described below.
Event 1. The user locked a tile to work on; when he click to Mark task as
done, the tile is still selected and the Invalidate button message is showed.
It would probably be better to unselect the tile and show the Take a task
message.
Event 2 : The user selects a tile already done; in this case, both the
Invalidate button and the Clear selection option should be offered.
Pierre
>________________________________
> De : Pierre GIRAUD <[email protected]>
>À : Augustin Doury <[email protected]>
>Cc : HOT Openstreetmap <[email protected]>
>Envoyé le : Dimanche 13 janvier 2013 15h30
>Objet : Re: [HOT] [Tasking Manager] enhancements - testers required
>
>
>Ok, I've gone further with my experimentations.
>I'm really not satisfied with the validation workflow and I've tried to change
>it completely.
>
>
>I'm convinced that it's not really a requirement to be able to "validate"
>tiles. It appears (looking at the statistics) that very few tiles have been
>marked as valid in the past jobs. I suppose that's because validation itself
>is not easy. It's easy to tell that a tile in invalid though. Thus, it's
>really a requirement to be able to "invalidate" tiles.
>In the version currently installed on dev server, the "validation" button
>doesn't exist anymore. The tiles can now take only 2 statuses "done" or "not
>done". Colors have been changed too. They're now more "common" to people's
>habits and they match the buttons colors too.
>Also, there's no need to lock a tile to tell it's invalidate. I think this
>should be a quick process.
>
>
>I intend to add a "message box". Users could for example receive messages from
>the application to be informed that a tile they previously worked on has been
>invalidated.
>
>
>One other thing I changed is the "users tab". I simplified things by removing
>the numbers telling how much the users worked. As someone already told me,
>this is not a race. We don't need a winner.
>What I added though is the availability to see which tiles the given users
>worked on by highlighting them on the map. This feature has been asked several
>times.
>
>
>Once again, feedbacks are welcome.
>
>
>
>On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 6:43 PM, Augustin Doury <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>Sorry for this second email, I just want to add something about this point of
>my last email :
>>
>>
>>1) Limit how many times you could split the tasks, for a zoom level of 17,
>>maybe not more than once.
>>> sometimes tasks are splitted twice or more, it really slows the mapping.
>>
>>
>>On the "users" page,the number of tiles done by a contributor could depend on
>>the size of the tiles he has done :
>>- if he did not split tiles, show "1" for one tile
>>- if he did, show "0,25" for one tile which is from a tile splitted once.
>>
>>
>>Augustin
>>
>>
>>On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Augustin Doury <[email protected]>
>>wrote:
>>
>>Hi! Couple things I realized this morning using the Tasking Manager :
>>>
>>>
>>>1) Limit how many times you could split the tasks, for a zoom level of 17,
>>>maybe not more than once.
>>>> sometimes tasks are splitted twice or more, it really slows the mapping.
>>>
>>>
>>>2) Make it easy to find which task you're working on,
>>>In the current version all "current worked on" tasks are highlighted in
>>>orange, maybe the task linked to your OSM account could be highlighted in an
>>>other colour.
>>>
>>>
>>>3) It's too easy to delete a task, it could be great to add one step more
>>>for security checking
>>>
>>>
>>>Great to imagine how the new version will be!
>>>
>>>Augustin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 9:39 PM, Augustin Doury <[email protected]>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>Thanks for that Pierre! Here are some comments :
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 8:18 PM, Pierre GIRAUD <[email protected]>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> - with this in mind, tiles url (in the address bar) can be used to be
>>>>shared to someone else. This might be useful to use a tile as reference in
>>>>a discussion between mappers,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> this is a real enhancement, especially with new mappers who want to have
>>>>> their work checked or to share it easily. I would use it like every week.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> - comments are now required when marking a task as done or (in)validating
>>>>>one,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> great, it could be good to have an informative message to explain what
>>>>> kind of comment is expected,
>>>>> maybe the person who create the job could choose this informative message.
>>>>
>>>> - users have access to the tile change history.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> this is a real enhancement too I think
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Please write down any problems you see and your good or bad feelings.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Something that could be great on the Tasking Manager's "users" page :
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>By clicking on the OSMid of a contributor or a validator, be able to :
>>>>>
>>>>>- know which tile he has edited
>>>>>- know which tile he has marked as "done"
>>>>>- which tile he has validated
>>>>>- and be able to select it easily and open it in "read-only" mode.
>>>>>Great for quality assurance with new mappers, and great to find which tile
>>>>>you have worked on yesterday.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Off topic question:
>>>>>I'm not sure how important the locking is when an advanced user wants to
>>>>>(in)validate the work done on a job.
>>>>>How about allowing validation without any lock. Or maybe we should rethink
>>>>>the validation process.
>>>>>Any thoughts?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> when a new register click on a task marked as done, he uses to validate
>>>>> or invalidate it quickly and don't think to just click on "unlock-it"...
>>>>I think a new validation process could be great, let it open for everybody
>>>>but be sure that all validators did it in an informed way and don't
>>>>validate or invalidate a task by mistake.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Pierre
>>>>>
>>>>>
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