Agreed. Taken into account.
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Pierre Béland <[email protected]>wrote: > Hi Pierre > > In the Users tab, I agree to remove the stats for each user. It should be > enough to highlight for each user the tasks done.. I also agree to remove > the Validate option. When we invalidate, we have the option to give a > comment. This would also be a good option to send and email to the user. > > To show the tiles to be selected, I prefer the light grey like in the > previous version. I find this less confusing the the red color. > > There are two circumstances where the message to invalidate a tile is > showed. I would treat these two events differently as described below. > > Event 1. The user locked a tile to work on; when he click to Mark task as > done, the tile is still selected and the Invalidate button message is > showed. It would probably be better to unselect the tile and show the Take > a task message. > > Event 2 : The user selects a tile already done; in this case, both the > Invalidate button and the Clear selection option should be offered. > > Pierre > > ------------------------------ > *De :* Pierre GIRAUD <[email protected]> > *À :* Augustin Doury <[email protected]> > *Cc :* HOT Openstreetmap <[email protected]> > *Envoyé le :* Dimanche 13 janvier 2013 15h30 > *Objet :* Re: [HOT] [Tasking Manager] enhancements - testers required > > Ok, I've gone further with my experimentations. > I'm really not satisfied with the validation workflow and I've tried to > change it completely. > > I'm convinced that it's not really a requirement to be able to "validate" > tiles. It appears (looking at the statistics) that very few tiles have been > marked as valid in the past jobs. I suppose that's because validation > itself is not easy. It's easy to tell that a tile in invalid though. Thus, > it's really a requirement to be able to "invalidate" tiles. > In the version currently installed on dev server, the "validation" button > doesn't exist anymore. The tiles can now take only 2 statuses "done" or > "not done". Colors have been changed too. They're now more "common" to > people's habits and they match the buttons colors too. > Also, there's no need to lock a tile to tell it's invalidate. I think this > should be a quick process. > > I intend to add a "message box". Users could for example receive messages > from the application to be informed that a tile they previously worked on > has been invalidated. > > One other thing I changed is the "users tab". I simplified things by > removing the numbers telling how much the users worked. As someone already > told me, this is not a race. We don't need a winner. > What I added though is the availability to see which tiles the given users > worked on by highlighting them on the map. This feature has been asked > several times. > > Once again, feedbacks are welcome. > > > On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 6:43 PM, Augustin Doury <[email protected] > > wrote: > > Sorry for this second email, I just want to add something about this point > of my last email : > > 1) Limit how many times you could split the tasks, for a zoom level of 17, > maybe not more than once. > > sometimes tasks are splitted twice or more, it really slows the mapping. > > On the "users" page,the number of tiles done by a contributor could depend > on the size of the tiles he has done : > - if he did not split tiles, show "1" for one tile > - if he did, show "0,25" for one tile which is from a tile splitted once. > > Augustin > > On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Augustin Doury <[email protected] > > wrote: > > Hi! Couple things I realized this morning using the Tasking Manager : > > 1) Limit how many times you could split the tasks, for a zoom level of 17, > maybe not more than once. > > sometimes tasks are splitted twice or more, it really slows the mapping. > > 2) Make it easy to find which task you're working on, > In the current version all "current worked on" tasks are highlighted in > orange, maybe the task linked to your OSM account could be highlighted in > an other colour. > > 3) It's too easy to delete a task, it could be great to add one step more > for security checking > > Great to imagine how the new version will be! > > Augustin > > > On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 9:39 PM, Augustin Doury <[email protected] > > wrote: > > Thanks for that Pierre! Here are some comments : > > On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 8:18 PM, Pierre GIRAUD <[email protected]>wrote: > > > - with this in mind, tiles url (in the address bar) can be used to be > shared to someone else. This might be useful to use a tile as reference in > a discussion between mappers, > > > > this is a real enhancement, especially with new mappers who want to > have their work checked or to share it easily. I would use it like every > week. > > > > - comments are now required when marking a task as done or (in)validating > one, > > > > great, it could be good to have an informative message to explain what > kind of comment is expected, > > maybe the person who create the job could choose this informative > message. > > > - users have access to the tile change history. > > > > this is a real enhancement too I think > > > > Please write down any problems you see and your good or bad feelings. > > > Something that could be great on the Tasking Manager's "users" page : > > By clicking on the OSMid of a contributor or a validator, be able to : > > - know which tile he has edited > - know which tile he has marked as "done" > - which tile he has validated > - and be able to select it easily and open it in "read-only" mode. > Great for quality assurance with new mappers, and great to find which tile > you have worked on yesterday. > > > > > Thanks. > > Off topic question: > I'm not sure how important the locking is when an advanced user wants to > (in)validate the work done on a job. > How about allowing validation without any lock. Or maybe we should rethink > the validation process. > Any thoughts? > > > > when a new register click on a task marked as done, he uses to validate > or invalidate it quickly and don't think to just click on "unlock-it"... > I think a new validation process could be great, let it open for everybody > but be sure that all validators did it in an informed way and don't > validate or invalidate a task by mistake. > > > > Pierre > > [1] http://tasks-dev.hotosm.org > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------- > | Pierre GIRAUD > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > HOT mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > > > -- > Augustin Doury > Openstreetmap Senegal Community Mobilizer > Humanitarian Openstreetmap Team (HOT) > +221773160902 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting +221773160902 > end_of_the_skype_highlighting begin_of_the_skype_highlighting > +221773160902 > end_of_the_skype_highlightingbegin_of_the_skype_highlighting > +221773160902 end_of_the_skype_highlighting > > > > > -- > Augustin Doury > Openstreetmap Senegal Community Mobilizer > Humanitarian Openstreetmap Team (HOT) > +221773160902 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting +221773160902 > end_of_the_skype_highlighting begin_of_the_skype_highlighting > +221773160902 > end_of_the_skype_highlightingbegin_of_the_skype_highlighting > +221773160902 end_of_the_skype_highlighting > > > > > -- > Augustin Doury > Openstreetmap Senegal Community Mobilizer > Humanitarian Openstreetmap Team (HOT) > +221773160902 > > > > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------- > | Pierre GIRAUD > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > HOT mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------- | Pierre GIRAUD -------------------------------------------------------------
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