Robert,
It is already possible to export the tile grid by adding /export to the url :
/job/#no/export
Pierre
>________________________________
> De : "Banick, Robert" <[email protected]>
>À : Kate Chapman <[email protected]>; Pierre GIRAUD <[email protected]>
>Cc : HOT Openstreetmap <[email protected]>
>Envoyé le : Lundi 14 janvier 2013 14h17
>Objet : Re: [HOT] [Tasking Manager] enhancements - testers required
>
>Kate, I like your thoughts on a sequential mapping and validation process. I
>always do this informally (roads, then buildings) and find it to be a lot more
>productive.
>
>One unrelated, entirely selfish wishlist item I'd like to throw out is the
>ability to download the tile grid itself. I've been working with some
>universities to do specific mapping tasks and for organizational purposes it
>would be great to download the tile grid so we could print it and manually
>parcel out tiles. It's kind of a specialized use case but I think that
>functionality could be useful to any on-the-ground group trying to use the
>tasking manager as an organizational tool.
>
>Robert Banick | American Red Cross
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Kate Chapman [mailto:[email protected]]
>Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 7:10 PM
>To: Pierre GIRAUD
>Cc: HOT Openstreetmap
>Subject: Re: [HOT] [Tasking Manager] enhancements - testers required
>
>Hi Pierre,
>
>I think it is a requirement to validate tiles. Yes we haven't figured out how
>to get people to do it, but I think that is an instructional issue. Perhaps
>if the validators were given access to a greater number of tiles to validate
>at a time. Maybe they could pick multiple tiles at once.
>
>Long-term I'd like to see the workflow so that you can define the steps a task
>goes through. Meaning I could say I want all squares to go through the
>following phases. Map the roads -> map the buildings -> validate. Then another
>task could have a complete different set of phases. Map the residential areas
>-> map the water ways -> map the roads.
>
>We haven't quite figured out the validation yet, but it is important.
>
>-Kate
>
>On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 4:30 AM, Pierre GIRAUD <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Ok, I've gone further with my experimentations.
>> I'm really not satisfied with the validation workflow and I've tried
>> to change it completely.
>>
>> I'm convinced that it's not really a requirement to be able to "validate"
>> tiles. It appears (looking at the statistics) that very few tiles have
>> been marked as valid in the past jobs. I suppose that's because
>> validation itself is not easy. It's easy to tell that a tile in
>> invalid though. Thus, it's really a requirement to be able to "invalidate"
>> tiles.
>> In the version currently installed on dev server, the "validation"
>> button doesn't exist anymore. The tiles can now take only 2 statuses
>> "done" or "not done". Colors have been changed too. They're now more
>> "common" to people's habits and they match the buttons colors too.
>> Also, there's no need to lock a tile to tell it's invalidate. I think
>> this should be a quick process.
>>
>> I intend to add a "message box". Users could for example receive
>> messages from the application to be informed that a tile they
>> previously worked on has been invalidated.
>>
>> One other thing I changed is the "users tab". I simplified things by
>> removing the numbers telling how much the users worked. As someone
>> already told me, this is not a race. We don't need a winner.
>> What I added though is the availability to see which tiles the given
>> users worked on by highlighting them on the map. This feature has been
>> asked several times.
>>
>> Once again, feedbacks are welcome.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 6:43 PM, Augustin Doury
>> <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Sorry for this second email, I just want to add something about this
>>> point of my last email :
>>>
>>> 1) Limit how many times you could split the tasks, for a zoom level
>>> of 17, maybe not more than once.
>>> > sometimes tasks are splitted twice or more, it really slows the mapping.
>>>
>>> On the "users" page,the number of tiles done by a contributor could
>>> depend on the size of the tiles he has done :
>>> - if he did not split tiles, show "1" for one tile
>>> - if he did, show "0,25" for one tile which is from a tile splitted once.
>>>
>>> Augustin
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Augustin Doury
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi! Couple things I realized this morning using the Tasking Manager :
>>>>
>>>> 1) Limit how many times you could split the tasks, for a zoom level
>>>> of 17, maybe not more than once.
>>>> > sometimes tasks are splitted twice or more, it really slows the
>>>> > mapping.
>>>>
>>>> 2) Make it easy to find which task you're working on, In the current
>>>> version all "current worked on" tasks are highlighted in orange,
>>>> maybe the task linked to your OSM account could be highlighted in an
>>>> other colour.
>>>>
>>>> 3) It's too easy to delete a task, it could be great to add one step
>>>> more for security checking
>>>>
>>>> Great to imagine how the new version will be!
>>>>
>>>> Augustin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 9:39 PM, Augustin Doury
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for that Pierre! Here are some comments :
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 8:18 PM, Pierre GIRAUD
>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - with this in mind, tiles url (in the address bar) can be used
>>>>>> to be shared to someone else. This might be useful to use a tile
>>>>>> as reference in a discussion between mappers,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > this is a real enhancement, especially with new mappers who want
>>>>> > to have their work checked or to share it easily. I would use it
>>>>> > like every week.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - comments are now required when marking a task as done or
>>>>>> (in)validating one,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > great, it could be good to have an informative message to explain
>>>>> > what kind of comment is expected, maybe the person who create the
>>>>> > job could choose this informative message.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - users have access to the tile change history.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > this is a real enhancement too I think
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please write down any problems you see and your good or bad feelings.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Something that could be great on the Tasking Manager's "users" page :
>>>>>
>>>>> By clicking on the OSMid of a contributor or a validator, be able to :
>>>>>
>>>>> - know which tile he has edited
>>>>> - know which tile he has marked as "done"
>>>>> - which tile he has validated
>>>>> - and be able to select it easily and open it in "read-only" mode.
>>>>> Great for quality assurance with new mappers, and great to find
>>>>> which tile you have worked on yesterday.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Off topic question:
>>>>>> I'm not sure how important the locking is when an advanced user
>>>>>> wants to (in)validate the work done on a job.
>>>>>> How about allowing validation without any lock. Or maybe we should
>>>>>> rethink the validation process.
>>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > when a new register click on a task marked as done, he uses to
>>>>> > validate or invalidate it quickly and don't think to just click
>>>>> > on "unlock-it"...
>>>>> I think a new validation process could be great, let it open for
>>>>> everybody but be sure that all validators did it in an informed way
>>>>> and don't validate or invalidate a task by mistake.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pierre
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] http://tasks-dev.hotosm.org
>>>>>>
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