Sorry, it is late for me - I always try to offer a solution rather than just 
shoot something down; I just hadn't got there yet. A little more of my 
thinking: if we put any sort of 'report bug' link onto the Tasking Manager and 
it's for reporting more than issues with the TM itself, then we're going to 
need a lot more discussion (at least with our Activation and Tech Working 
Groups), so it's great to see some mock-ups, but without more time to really 
look at the logistics - if it basically sends an email - then that isn't going 
to fix problems that we will surely get like 'the website is down', how to I 
get the building plug-in for JOSM, etc.

My 'solution', and just to make sure everyone is aware of the 'official' OSM 
Help site: https://help.openstreetmap.org/ - we could definitely add a link to 
there on the TM.

Cheers,
=Russ

-----Original Message-----
From: Suzan Reed [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2015 11:29 PM
To: Russell Deffner
Subject: Re: [HOT] step by step recipe for iD bug reporting

Hey Russ and all, 

The form can be programmed to go to the right team automatically depending on 
which radio button is selected (iD, JOSM, or Other. See the rough I sent. 

It's a straight forward programming line - radio1=JOSMteam (email address or 
web address etc.). Something like that! 

Suzan 


On May 23, 2015, at 9:51 PM, Russell Deffner wrote:

Never mind, think I answered my own question; so my opinion – if the idea is 
that anyone can ‘report a bug’ they find on any OSM tool/platform to the HOT 
volunteers coordinating the response who then triage and report to the proper 
place – that is not going to happen, sorry.
=Russ
 
From: Russell Deffner [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2015 10:12 PM
To: 'Clifford Snow'; 'Charlotte Wolter'
Cc: 'HOT'
Subject: RE: [HOT] step by step recipe for iD bug reporting
 
How would the report then get to the proper place?
=Russ
 
From: Clifford Snow [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2015 8:16 PM
To: Charlotte Wolter
Cc: HOT
Subject: Re: [HOT] step by step recipe for iD bug reporting
 
 
On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 5:00 PM, Charlotte Wolter <[email protected]> wrote:
      Right. It should be clarified.
         "Problem with iD or JSOM"
        As for what else is needed, that is up to those who know how to fix 
either. Maybe the button above should lead to two choices: "iD" or "JOSM," at 
which point the appropriate questionnaire appears.
        Does JOSM include a way to report issues? To my knowledge, iD does not. 
Clearly they need to be separate.

JOSM bugs are reported on the josm.openstreetmap.de website. One the main JOSM 
page are the instructions: 
Found a bug? | Have an idea? | Make a suggestion?

                • Please report any bug found: Create a new ticket using the 
Report Bug entry in the main menu Help. Alternatively, the same function is 
available under About and Show status report.
                • Discuss ideas and suggestions also in the bug tracker, on the 
​josm-dev mailing list, or on the ​#josm IRC channel.
JOSM is sold as an advanced editor which might give the impress that someone 
"steps up" from iD to JSOM. From what I've seen on HOT, for some tasks it is 
the preferred editor which means that new mappers are using JOSM. If they come 
from an open source, ie linux, background I don't see any real roadblocks to 
creating bug reports. But for the vast majority it is somewhat intimidating. 
One solution is to report the bug on the Tasking Manager for the task owner to 
verify. If it is a bug, the task owner reports the bug on the josm website. 
That allows the owner to triage the reports to make sure that they weed out 
user/training issues.
 
I'm inclined to suggest modifying the TM interface to include these issues. 
What does everyone else think?
 
Clifford
 
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