I might be missing something but what's wrong with selecting all buildings in JOSM via Search (check if there are huts selected or 45-degree buildings of course) and then do a mass orthogonalization? That would be part of a validation workflow and could even be automated.
On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 7:48 AM Jo <[email protected]> wrote: > If you want a building squared at 45 degrees in JOSM, for some reason, you > can start with a closed way with 8 nodes, then use the circle tool. > > Or you can press 'a' twice, allowing you to add the next part of a way at > 15 degree angle intervals. It's possible to create really nice geometric > shapes using this method. > > One has to know the tool one is working with. > > When people insist on working with iD, it's necessary to tell them (over > and over again) about the importance of doing the extra step of squaring > the rectangular buildings. For one thing, it makes using JOSM's extrude > tool easier, if it's needed to improve the building. > > I understand that, as a validator, it's extremely tedious to square all > those buildings, even when using the todo plugin and pressing ]q]q]q]q]q] > hundreds of times. You could invalidate the tiles which contain mostly > unsquared buildings. Or you could just leave them alone, post a remark to > the user and validate the tile anyway. Better that than becoming burned out > as a validator. > > I've been trying to get people to understand how much work it is to > validate their tiles, when buildings are not squared by creating > screencasts and posting a link to it in the comment field. This was rather > effective, but it still is rather time consuming and there are always new > users coming in, which, for some reason, were not trained with JOSM the > power tool, but with iD instead. > > Anyway, those screencasts were also meant as a way to show people the > advantages of using JOSM, but I don't know if I have been very successful > at getting them to start using it. It's hard to make people switch to > something new, which is why I'll be teaching only JOSM, this Saturday (also > because I don't know iD all that well, ofc). I failed to follow up, as I > moved on to other projects that gave me more satisfaction (as a validator). > > Polyglot > > 2016-04-14 4:15 GMT+02:00 Suzan Reed <[email protected]>: > >> How about showing people how to map a building and square it right at the >> beginning of mapping? It’s all one motion for me. >> >> Just a suggestion! >> >> Suzan >> >> >> On Apr 13, 2016, at 7:05 PM, Clifford Snow <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 4:52 PM, john whelan <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> Seeing 200 unsquared buildings by one mapper on a tile makes me think >> they weren't using JOSM and the building-tool. I could be wrong, the same >> mapper also left behind three area=yes squares that just happened to be the >> same as a building image. Again it is perfectly possible to do this in >> JOSM to draw such a shape and tag it area=yes, though why anyone with JOSM >> and the building_tool plugin would do such a thing I can't imagine. >> >> I'm asking a pragmatic question given that I'm seeing so many unsquared >> buildings when validating is it essential they be squared? and if so how >> do we get squared buildings? >> >> From my experience with hosting Missing Maps and HOT mapathons many of >> the mappers are first time contributors. We try to get them mapping as >> quickly as possible. After a period of time we introduce new techniques, >> such as squaring buildings and copy paste. The behavior you observed may be >> the lack of training. If its possible to find out if the mapper attended an >> event and if so who organized it to give gentle constructive feedback to >> the host. (Hopefully it wasn't one of ours) >> >> Clifford >> >> >> -- >> @osm_seattle >> osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us >> OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch >> _______________________________________________ >> HOT mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> HOT mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >> > > _______________________________________________ > HOT mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >
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