Hi all,

Just a quick message to share my point of view : mapswipe allows way more people to take part into Missing Maps than OSM, even though it's not direct mapping...Anyone who doesnt't want or doesn't know how to map in OSM can take part in this effort. That's its best advantage and where it save mappers time...

Bests

Violaine


Le 26/03/2017 à 17:58, john whelan a écrit :
>It's definitely useful to save actual mapper's time. For validation I'm not sure it would be a big help.

I must be missing something. Mapswipe uses four passes and then we get different sized tiles out of it. We still need an old fashioned mapper to map the tile. Traditionally if a mapper thought the tile size was too big they would split it to give different sized tiles.

How does it save mapper time? Does that take into account the four passes that mapswipe uses first?

On the validation side really all you need is to inspect the tile and say its OK. If the tile is good enough you don't need to add anything. From a practical point of view a conventional validator could do it in one pass provided we trusted them. You'd still want to run JOSM for things like duplicate segments, crossing ways etc but that's faster than having to do a visual inspection as well.

Cheerio John

On 26 March 2017 at 10:46, Jo <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    It's definitely useful to save actual mapper's time. For
    validation I'm not sure it would be a big help.

    Op 26 mrt. 2017 3:12 p.m. schreef "john whelan"
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>:

        Would we be better ahead by using something like mapswipe to
        validate?  If a tile is OK there is no need to add to the map
        from the tool. If three mappers tick it then I would say its
        good to go.

        The current system we use four mappers to mapswipe, then a
        conventional mapper to map followed by a validator.  Six
        passes to get a validated tile.  The other way would give you
        one in four passes three of which would be on smartphones.

        Cheerio John

        On 26 March 2017 at 09:01, john whelan <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            But does it address the concern about how much effort is
            expended compared to the value added?

            Cheerio John

            On 26 March 2017 at 08:44, Ralf Stephan <[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                Search is your friend. Searching for Mapswipe yields
                eg http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/2521
                <http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/2521>
                where clearly the tiles are preselected. Also the
                description: "The data are prepared by MapSwipe"

                Regards,

                On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 2:40 PM john whelan
                <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
                wrote:

                    I seem to recall the same area is mapswiped by
                    four different people before a mapper maps it.

                    Other than the size of the tile or which area to
                    give priority to I think the advantage is that
                    people can do it anywhere on a smartphone.

                    I would hesitate to say if it is worth doing or
                    not.  In future there might be a way to bring
                    something into OSM via a review process.

                    Cheerio John

                    On 26 March 2017 at 08:22, Hakuch
                    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:



                        On 26.03.2017 14 <tel:26.03.2017%2014>:13,
                        john whelan wrote:
                        > My understanding is that mapswipe is only
                        used to identify where to map.
                        > Not to contribute to the map.
                        >
                        > Cheerio John

                        of course there is no data transmitted to OSM,
                        but how is the data (I
                        mean, marked tiles) used after I transmitted
                        it? How much is it worth to
                        do that mapswiping?


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