If your application/site is well-structured, finding a particular
page/section of code (and understanding that structure well) will break
your reliance on Design View and make you a more efficient coder in the
long run - what's happening with Design View is you're allowing a tool
to think for you (which is not a bad thing, in some cases) instead of
understanding your application's structure and becoming intimate with
it's inner workings.
Aptana has a both site-wide and file search capabilities - since it's
free, I strongly recommend giving it a test drive, and make a list of
advantages vs. disadvantages it has compared to DW so you can decide
which one is best for your team.
James E. Thomas
Baker Botts L.L.P. Web Developer
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Ajas Mohammed
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 8:32 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [houcfug] Re: Adobe Dreamweaver CS3 - 3-4 user license
Thanks James. "not being able to drag and drop table and column
names though has forced me to become more familiar with the data I work
with, and as a result, I think, a better coder overall. Less reliance on
Design View as well helped push me in that direction."
Well, that explains why I became so dependent on this design
view. I guess its the right time for me to switch to coding in
Aptana/Eclipse so my love for this Design view goes away and it makes me
Editor free, so I can pretty much code in any editor.
I agree DW is bloated. I will give you an idea why I get stuck
with design view. We have an application and we include several pages.
Now sometimes, when a new enhancement request comes up for a screen/page
at a particular location on the page and if it includes lets say 5 cfm
pages, I just open the main page and select the area which needs
enhancement. And DW would say in code, that its an included page and
then I go to that page and do the enhancement. It has worked really well
for me in the last 3 years. This way, I dont have to search for that
particular area/context. Even if I had to do text search, DW is nice to
let me search through the whole site. I dont know if you can do this in
Eclipse(not that I know of) or Aptana i.e. search for something in the
whole site.
Thanks again,
Ajas Mohammed.
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 9:14 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
No, Aptana does not have a design-time WYSIWYG view -
frankly, I find the Design View rather worthless with CF projects,
especially when dealing with dynamic data. Using a tool like Firebug or
any of the many Firefox web development plugins tends (for me) to yield
better results in terms of working with display code and fine-tuning it.
The rendering engine DW uses for it's WYSIWYG view is also inconsistent
with how the modern browsers display.
I forgot to mention that Aptana uses CF Eclipse as a
plug in to enable CF code formatting and function reference. I don't
want to mislead anyone into thinking Aptana is a native CF IDE.
For what it's worth, I've always been a die-hard
Adobe/Dreamweaver fan, but CS3's bloat really started hampering my
development at work, and the Mac version's even worse at home - Aptana
offers a cross-platform, consistent experience for me, that is much
faster and responsive when working - my only lament is the lack of
database integration that I liked from Dreamweaver - not being able to
drag and drop table and column names though has forced me to become more
familiar with the data I work with, and as a result, I think, a better
coder overall. Less reliance on Design View as well helped push me in
that direction.
James E. Thomas
Baker Botts L.L.P. Web Developer
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ajas Mohammed
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 8:06 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [houcfug] Re: Adobe Dreamweaver CS3 -
3-4 user license
Thanks, I will check Aptana. I remember I had
that plugin installed in Eclipse for CSS/JavaScript.
I will check on this myself, but do you happen
to know if Aptana has design view like DW? Honestly, thats the only
reason, we are stuck with DW. I started using Eclipse long time back and
I just love it. It just that sometimes, design view can be of so much
help.
Thanks.
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 8:52 AM,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I would recommend looking at other IDEs
such as Aptana (www.aptana.com) that work quite well with all flavors of
CF (even BlueDragon), and comes in both a free and a commercial version.
Adobe's Dreamweaver has (in my opinion) become bloated, and too
resource-intensive. Unless the upcoming CS4 edition addresses some of
these issues, then I'm sticking to open-source and alternative software
for CF development.
James E. Thomas
Baker Botts L.L.P. Web Developer
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ajas Mohammed
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 9:23
AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [houcfug] Adobe Dreamweaver CS3
- 3-4 user license
Hello everyone,
Our team decided that we need to have DW
for development, so my question is, is there a discount code(for the
user group) I can use to buy DW CS3 from Adobe??? What is the best way
to buy 3-4 user license for DW CS3.
Adobe site says Buy US$399
<http://www.adobe.com/go/buydreamweaver> for DW CS3.
Thanks,
--
<Ajas Mohammed />
http://ajashadi.blogspot.com
We cannot become what we need to be,
remaining what we are.
No matter what, find a way. Because
thats what winners do.
You can't improve what you don't
measure.
Quality is never an accident; it is
always the result of high intention, sincere effort, intelligent
direction and skillful execution; it represents the wise choice of many
alternatives.
--
<Ajas Mohammed />
http://ajashadi.blogspot.com
We cannot become what we need to be, remaining
what we are.
No matter what, find a way. Because thats what
winners do.
You can't improve what you don't measure.
Quality is never an accident; it is always the
result of high intention, sincere effort, intelligent direction and
skillful execution; it represents the wise choice of many alternatives.
--
<Ajas Mohammed />
http://ajashadi.blogspot.com
We cannot become what we need to be, remaining what we are.
No matter what, find a way. Because thats what winners do.
You can't improve what you don't measure.
Quality is never an accident; it is always the result of high
intention, sincere effort, intelligent direction and skillful execution;
it represents the wise choice of many alternatives.
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