Ok, downloaded and installed aptana and installed cfeclipse 1.3.1.6 that
comes with CFUnit and Frameworks.

I will keep everyone updated as to how it goes... I might try pro version
since i was sent a license for one month trial...

on a side note, what version of cfeclipse are you using with your Aptana
environment???? also is there a way to show full path of the file thats open
in the top title window??? I know you can hover over the tab and it will
show the path, but having it appear on top makes me much easier... ;-)

on first looks, Aptana looks exactly like eclipse which is a good thing.. I
love that they have not changed a lot of things...

thanks,

Ajas Mohammed.


On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 9:38 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  *If your application/site is well-structured, finding a particular
> page/section of code (and understanding that structure well) will break your
> reliance on Design View and make you a more efficient coder in the long run
> - what's happening with Design View is you're allowing a tool to think for
> you (which is not a bad thing, in some cases) instead of understanding your
> application's structure and becoming intimate with it's inner workings.*
> **
> *Aptana has a both site-wide and file search capabilities - since it's
> free, I strongly recommend giving it a test drive, and make a list of
> advantages vs. disadvantages it has compared to DW so you can decide which
> one is best for your team.*
>
>
> *James E. Thomas*
> Baker Botts L.L.P. Web Developer
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On
> Behalf Of *Ajas Mohammed
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 17, 2008 8:32 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* [houcfug] Re: Adobe Dreamweaver CS3 - 3-4 user license
>
> Thanks James. "*not being able to drag and drop table and column names
> though has forced me to become more familiar with the data I work with, and
> as a result, I think, a better coder overall. Less reliance on Design View
> as well helped push me in that direction."
>
> *Well, that explains why I became so dependent on this design view. I
> guess its the right time for me to switch to coding in Aptana/Eclipse so my
> love for this Design view goes away and it makes me Editor free, so I can
> pretty much code in any editor.
>
> I agree DW is bloated. I will give you an idea why I get stuck with design
> view. We have an application and we include several pages. Now sometimes,
> when a new enhancement request comes up for a screen/page at a particular
> location on the page and if it includes lets say 5 cfm pages, I just open
> the main page and select the area which needs enhancement. And DW would say
> in code, that its an included page and then I go to that page and do the
> enhancement. It has worked really well for me in the last 3 years. This way,
> I dont have to search for that particular area/context. Even if I had to do
> text search, DW is nice to let me search through the whole site. I dont know
> if you can do this in Eclipse(not that I know of) or Aptana i.e. search for
> something in the whole site.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Ajas Mohammed.
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 9:14 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>  *No, Aptana does not have a design-time WYSIWYG view - frankly, I find
>> the Design View rather worthless with CF projects, especially when dealing
>> with dynamic data. Using a tool like Firebug or any of the many Firefox web
>> development plugins tends (for me) to yield better results in terms of
>> working with display code and fine-tuning it. The rendering engine DW uses
>> for it's WYSIWYG view is also inconsistent with how the modern browsers
>> display.*
>> **
>> *I forgot to mention that Aptana uses CF Eclipse as a plug in to enable
>> CF code formatting and function reference. I don't want to mislead anyone
>> into thinking Aptana is a native CF IDE.*
>> **
>> *For what it's worth, I've always been a die-hard Adobe/Dreamweaver fan,
>> but CS3's bloat really started hampering my development at work, and the Mac
>> version's even worse at home - Aptana offers a cross-platform, consistent
>> experience for me, that is much faster and responsive when working - my only
>> lament is the lack of database integration that I liked from Dreamweaver -
>> not being able to drag and drop table and column names though has forced me
>> to become more familiar with the data I work with, and as a result, I think,
>> a better coder overall. Less reliance on Design View as well helped push me
>> in that direction.*
>>
>>
>> *James E. Thomas*
>> Baker Botts L.L.P. Web Developer
>>
>>  -----Original Message-----
>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On
>> Behalf Of *Ajas Mohammed
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 17, 2008 8:06 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>>  *Subject:* [houcfug] Re: Adobe Dreamweaver CS3 - 3-4 user license
>>
>>   Thanks, I will check Aptana. I remember I had that plugin installed in
>> Eclipse for CSS/JavaScript.
>>
>> I will check on this myself, but do you happen to know if Aptana has
>> design view like DW? Honestly, thats the only reason, we are stuck with DW.
>> I started using Eclipse long time back and I just love it. It just that
>> sometimes, design view can be of so much help.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 8:52 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>  *I would recommend looking at other IDEs such as Aptana (www.aptana.com)
>>> that work quite well with all flavors of CF (even BlueDragon), and comes in
>>> both a free and a commercial version. Adobe's Dreamweaver has (in my
>>> opinion) become bloated, and too resource-intensive. Unless the upcoming CS4
>>> edition addresses some of these issues, then I'm sticking to open-source and
>>> alternative software for CF development.*
>>>
>>>
>>> *James E. Thomas*
>>> Baker Botts L.L.P. Web Developer
>>>
>>>   -----Original Message-----
>>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Ajas Mohammed
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 16, 2008 9:23 AM
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* [houcfug] Adobe Dreamweaver CS3 - 3-4 user license
>>>
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>> Our team decided that we need to have DW for development, so my question
>>> is, is there a discount code(for the user group) I can use to buy DW CS3
>>> from Adobe??? What is the best way to buy 3-4 user license for DW CS3.
>>>
>>> Adobe site says Buy US$399 <http://www.adobe.com/go/buydreamweaver> for
>>> DW CS3.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> --
>>> <Ajas Mohammed />
>>> http://ajashadi.blogspot.com
>>> We cannot become what we need to be, remaining what we are.
>>> No matter what, find a way. Because thats what winners do.
>>> You can't improve what you don't measure.
>>> Quality is never an accident; it is always the result of high intention,
>>> sincere effort, intelligent direction and skillful execution; it represents
>>> the wise choice of many alternatives.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> <Ajas Mohammed />
>> http://ajashadi.blogspot.com
>> We cannot become what we need to be, remaining what we are.
>> No matter what, find a way. Because thats what winners do.
>> You can't improve what you don't measure.
>> Quality is never an accident; it is always the result of high intention,
>> sincere effort, intelligent direction and skillful execution; it represents
>> the wise choice of many alternatives.
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> <Ajas Mohammed />
> http://ajashadi.blogspot.com
> We cannot become what we need to be, remaining what we are.
> No matter what, find a way. Because thats what winners do.
> You can't improve what you don't measure.
> Quality is never an accident; it is always the result of high intention,
> sincere effort, intelligent direction and skillful execution; it represents
> the wise choice of many alternatives.
> >
>


-- 
<Ajas Mohammed />
http://ajashadi.blogspot.com
We cannot become what we need to be, remaining what we are.
No matter what, find a way. Because thats what winners do.
You can't improve what you don't measure.
Quality is never an accident; it is always the result of high intention,
sincere effort, intelligent direction and skillful execution; it represents
the wise choice of many alternatives.

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