Hi James and everyone, I have been using Aptana + CFEclipse and guess what, the other day we brought DW CS4, but I am stuck to Aptana. As you had mentioned earlier,
*If your application/site is well-structured, finding a particular page/section of code (and understanding that structure well) will break your reliance on Design View and make you a more efficient coder in the long run - what's happening with Design View is you're allowing a tool to think for you (which is not a bad thing, in some cases) instead of understanding your application's structure and becoming intimate with it's inner workings.* now I am using Aptana only. I have lost that dependency on design view and I am in control of things. I am using DW CS4 on and off. I am yet to configure Aptana + CFeclipse perspective to my taste. For example, some of auto help for html tag doesnt work right for me in cfeclipse perspective. There are so many updates shown at Aptana startup, and I havent installed any since the first installation of Aptana. What do you guys recommend??? Also please share how to customize perspective so I can get help for html, css, javascript while iam in CFeclipse perspective. Thanks, <Ajas Mohammed /> http://ajashadi.blogspot.com We cannot become what we need to be, remaining what we are. No matter what, find a way. Because thats what winners do. You can't improve what you don't measure. Quality is never an accident; it is always the result of high intention, sincere effort, intelligent direction and skillful execution; it represents the wise choice of many alternatives. On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 1:35 PM, Aaron Rouse <[email protected]> wrote: > I always hate that about switching between programs, hot keys we get used > to change or completely go away. > > > On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 10:41 AM, Ajas Mohammed <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Thanks guys, >> >> I was stuck with the usual Browser plus Microsoft style of using CNTL - F >> which didnt give the option to search site/project level. >> >> Now I know. >> >> Ajas. >> >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Seth Bienek <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> CTRL-H or Search -> Search from the file menu. :) >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On >>> Behalf Of *Ajas Mohammed >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 24, 2008 10:30 AM >>> >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* [houcfug] Re: Adobe Dreamweaver CS3 - 3-4 user license >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi there, >>> >>> I wanted to search through the whole site/project in Aptana CFEclipse, >>> but I am not able to find it. You mentioned that you can search at >>> site/project level or file level. >>> >>> How can I search for some text at Site/Project level. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Ajas. >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 1:21 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> *I'm using the 1.3.2 Beta at the moment... no problems so far!* >>> >>> >>> >>> *As for showing the file path in the title, I don't know if Aptana can >>> do that - try searching the forums to see if someone else has asked the >>> same...* >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *James E. Thomas* >>> >>> Baker Botts L.L.P. Web Developer >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On >>> Behalf Of *Ajas Mohammed >>> >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 17, 2008 12:12 PM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* [houcfug] Re: Adobe Dreamweaver CS3 - 3-4 user license >>> >>> Ok, downloaded and installed aptana and installed cfeclipse 1.3.1.6 that >>> comes with CFUnit and Frameworks. >>> >>> I will keep everyone updated as to how it goes... I might try pro version >>> since i was sent a license for one month trial... >>> >>> on a side note, what version of cfeclipse are you using with your Aptana >>> environment???? also is there a way to show full path of the file thats open >>> in the top title window??? I know you can hover over the tab and it will >>> show the path, but having it appear on top makes me much easier... ;-) >>> >>> on first looks, Aptana looks exactly like eclipse which is a good thing.. >>> I love that they have not changed a lot of things... >>> >>> thanks, >>> >>> Ajas Mohammed. >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 9:38 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> *If your application/site is well-structured, finding a particular >>> page/section of code (and understanding that structure well) will break your >>> reliance on Design View and make you a more efficient coder in the long run >>> - what's happening with Design View is you're allowing a tool to think for >>> you (which is not a bad thing, in some cases) instead of understanding your >>> application's structure and becoming intimate with it's inner workings.* >>> >>> >>> >>> *Aptana has a both site-wide and file search capabilities - since it's >>> free, I strongly recommend giving it a test drive, and make a list of >>> advantages vs. disadvantages it has compared to DW so you can decide which >>> one is best for your team.* >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *James E. Thomas* >>> >>> Baker Botts L.L.P. Web Developer >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On >>> Behalf Of *Ajas Mohammed >>> >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 17, 2008 8:32 AM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* [houcfug] Re: Adobe Dreamweaver CS3 - 3-4 user license >>> >>> Thanks James. "*not being able to drag and drop table and column names >>> though has forced me to become more familiar with the data I work with, and >>> as a result, I think, a better coder overall. Less reliance on Design View >>> as well helped push me in that direction." >>> >>> *Well, that explains why I became so dependent on this design view. I >>> guess its the right time for me to switch to coding in Aptana/Eclipse so my >>> love for this Design view goes away and it makes me Editor free, so I can >>> pretty much code in any editor. >>> >>> I agree DW is bloated. I will give you an idea why I get stuck with >>> design view. We have an application and we include several pages. Now >>> sometimes, when a new enhancement request comes up for a screen/page at a >>> particular location on the page and if it includes lets say 5 cfm pages, I >>> just open the main page and select the area which needs enhancement. And DW >>> would say in code, that its an included page and then I go to that page and >>> do the enhancement. It has worked really well for me in the last 3 years. >>> This way, I dont have to search for that particular area/context. Even if I >>> had to do text search, DW is nice to let me search through the whole site. I >>> dont know if you can do this in Eclipse(not that I know of) or Aptana i.e. >>> search for something in the whole site. >>> >>> Thanks again, >>> >>> Ajas Mohammed. >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 9:14 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> *No, Aptana does not have a design-time WYSIWYG view - frankly, I find >>> the Design View rather worthless with CF projects, especially when dealing >>> with dynamic data. Using a tool like Firebug or any of the many Firefox web >>> development plugins tends (for me) to yield better results in terms of >>> working with display code and fine-tuning it. The rendering engine DW uses >>> for it's WYSIWYG view is also inconsistent with how the modern browsers >>> display.* >>> >>> >>> >>> *I forgot to mention that Aptana uses CF Eclipse as a plug in to enable >>> CF code formatting and function reference. I don't want to mislead anyone >>> into thinking Aptana is a native CF IDE.* >>> >>> >>> >>> *For what it's worth, I've always been a die-hard Adobe/Dreamweaver fan, >>> but CS3's bloat really started hampering my development at work, and the Mac >>> version's even worse at home - Aptana offers a cross-platform, consistent >>> experience for me, that is much faster and responsive when working - my only >>> lament is the lack of database integration that I liked from Dreamweaver - >>> not being able to drag and drop table and column names though has forced me >>> to become more familiar with the data I work with, and as a result, I think, >>> a better coder overall. Less reliance on Design View as well helped push me >>> in that direction.* >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *James E. Thomas* >>> >>> Baker Botts L.L.P. Web Developer >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On >>> Behalf Of *Ajas Mohammed >>> >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 17, 2008 8:06 AM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> >>> *Subject:* [houcfug] Re: Adobe Dreamweaver CS3 - 3-4 user license >>> >>> Thanks, I will check Aptana. I remember I had that plugin installed in >>> Eclipse for CSS/JavaScript. >>> >>> I will check on this myself, but do you happen to know if Aptana has >>> design view like DW? Honestly, thats the only reason, we are stuck with DW. >>> I started using Eclipse long time back and I just love it. It just that >>> sometimes, design view can be of so much help. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 8:52 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> *I would recommend looking at other IDEs such as Aptana (www.aptana.com) >>> that work quite well with all flavors of CF (even BlueDragon), and comes in >>> both a free and a commercial version. Adobe's Dreamweaver has (in my >>> opinion) become bloated, and too resource-intensive. Unless the upcoming CS4 >>> edition addresses some of these issues, then I'm sticking to open-source and >>> alternative software for CF development.* >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *James E. Thomas* >>> >>> Baker Botts L.L.P. Web Developer >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On >>> Behalf Of *Ajas Mohammed >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 16, 2008 9:23 AM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* [houcfug] Adobe Dreamweaver CS3 - 3-4 user license >>> >>> Hello everyone, >>> >>> Our team decided that we need to have DW for development, so my question >>> is, is there a discount code(for the user group) I can use to buy DW CS3 >>> from Adobe??? What is the best way to buy 3-4 user license for DW CS3. >>> >>> Adobe site says Buy US$399 <http://www.adobe.com/go/buydreamweaver> for >>> DW CS3. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> -- >>> <Ajas Mohammed /> >>> http://ajashadi.blogspot.com >>> We cannot become what we need to be, remaining what we are. >>> No matter what, find a way. Because thats what winners do. >>> You can't improve what you don't measure. >>> Quality is never an accident; it is always the result of high intention, >>> sincere effort, intelligent direction and skillful execution; it represents >>> the wise choice of many alternatives. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> <Ajas Mohammed /> >>> http://ajashadi.blogspot.com >>> We cannot become what we need to be, remaining what we are. >>> No matter what, find a way. Because thats what winners do. >>> You can't improve what you don't measure. >>> Quality is never an accident; it is always the result of high intention, >>> sincere effort, intelligent direction and skillful execution; it represents >>> the wise choice of many alternatives. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> <Ajas Mohammed /> >>> http://ajashadi.blogspot.com >>> We cannot become what we need to be, remaining what we are. >>> No matter what, find a way. Because thats what winners do. >>> You can't improve what you don't measure. >>> Quality is never an accident; it is always the result of high intention, >>> sincere effort, intelligent direction and skillful execution; it represents >>> the wise choice of many alternatives. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> <Ajas Mohammed /> >>> http://ajashadi.blogspot.com >>> We cannot become what we need to be, remaining what we are. >>> No matter what, find a way. Because thats what winners do. >>> You can't improve what you don't measure. >>> Quality is never an accident; it is always the result of high intention, >>> sincere effort, intelligent direction and skillful execution; it represents >>> the wise choice of many alternatives. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> <Ajas Mohammed /> >>> http://ajashadi.blogspot.com >>> We cannot become what we need to be, remaining what we are. >>> No matter what, find a way. Because thats what winners do. >>> You can't improve what you don't measure. >>> Quality is never an accident; it is always the result of high intention, >>> sincere effort, intelligent direction and skillful execution; it represents >>> the wise choice of many alternatives. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> <Ajas Mohammed /> >> http://ajashadi.blogspot.com >> We cannot become what we need to be, remaining what we are. >> No matter what, find a way. Because thats what winners do. >> You can't improve what you don't measure. >> Quality is never an accident; it is always the result of high intention, >> sincere effort, intelligent direction and skillful execution; it represents >> the wise choice of many alternatives. >> >> >> > > > -- > Aaron Rouse > http://www.happyhacker.com/ > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the "Houston ColdFusion Users' Group" discussion list. To unsubscribe, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit http://groups.google.com/group/houcfug?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
