Thanks John. Again, I hope I didn't come off knocking the skill of the authors. Hundreds of thousands of developers can cite the WACK as a significant resource in their career success. I know it can be difficult to redirect such a large body of work.
Billy Cravens [email protected] On Nov 19, 2012, at 5:53 PM, John C. Bland II <[email protected]> wrote: > Trust me, the authors discussed a lot about what to cut/add. Most of us don't > have a lot of pull in the end. :-D > > I suggested a whole change in WACK for 9. It was too late for such a pivot > but Bem let me know 10 would change and it is different. > > I believe the problems are beyond WACK and CF itself. It caters to the basic > and enables the advanced so the "official" book did the same. > > On Nov 19, 2012 3:53 PM, "Billy Cravens" <[email protected]> wrote: > Certainly wasn't directed at anyone; I know there's at least 2 contributing > authors on this list. As someone who has purchased at 4 different editions of > the series, I'm certainly a fan. That said, it's always felt to me like an > outgrowth of the early editions, only with more chapters and tags to cover. > As a result, I felt a lot of things were covered early in the title(s) that I > don't see anyone using, and some of the best practice stuff got bumped to the > end, maybe even missing the print version entirely (downloadable PDFs don't > cut it for me if I'm paying for a print copy) > > Billy Cravens > [email protected] > > > > On Nov 17, 2012, at 12:43 PM, Charlie Arehart <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Yes, congrats to all involved in CFiaW project. > > > > And Billy, here's potentially good news for you about the CFWACK: the book > > for CF10 will be just one volume, focused only on what's new and different > > in CF10 (though in my chapters I also through in bits and bobs on some > > things in 9.0.1, where appropriate and related to new things in 10 I was > > writing about, which did not make the 9 book. Can't speak for the other > > authors, as I have seen only my own chapters.) > > > > And yes, before someone might comment, the book may seem "late" in coming > > (as a book about CF10), but I'm actually hoping it's for the better. > > Previous versions of the book, being based on prereleases, often had things > > that ended up not being the same for the final release. Also, we were able > > to leverage a longer duration of experience working with CF10, as final, and > > (for many of us) in production, as well as learning from the experiences of > > others, to fold all that in. > > > > I'm not speaking officially for Ben, Ray, or the other few co-authors in > > this edition. > > > > And to be clear, no offense taken by me about your comment, Billy. :-) I > > know it wasn't directed at me, and you may not even have had me in mind when > > you said it. (Some wouldn't even have noticed that I was one of the > > contributors in all 3 of the books for 8 and 9.) But to your point, I too > > felt that the books were in need of a revamp, as a series. But rather than > > revisit the questions of how best to present everything from scratch, we > > just went with "what's new in CF10." > > > > Hope folks will enjoy it. I have no details on when it will be coming, > > other than to say that it's about wrapped up so now, so should be coming > > "real soon now". :-) > > > > /charlie > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > > Of Billy Cravens > > Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 10:18 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [houcfug] New "Learn ColdFusion In a Week" Online Course from Adobe > > > > www.LearnCFinaWeek.com is a site blessed by Adobe, written by a number of > > the top names in the ColdFusion community. It's a great free resource, being > > very comprehensive while not wasting time on unneeded basics or features > > (I'm looking at you CFWACK!) > > > > While it does start from the beginning, and is a great resource for those > > new to CF, senior developer will get a lot out of it as well. For example, > > the OO chapter really explains theory well (like many, I came up through CF > > before OO/MVC, so I can't say I ever received a proper education in that > > area - I just had to hit the ground running and figure it out as I went > > along). I'd encourage all to check the site out (you can view content > > online, or download a PDF/ebook) > > > > Billy Cravens > > > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "Houston > > ColdFusion Users' Group" discussion list. > > To unsubscribe, send email to [email protected] > > For more options, visit http://groups.google.com/group/houcfug?hl=en > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "Houston > ColdFusion Users' Group" discussion list. > To unsubscribe, send email to [email protected] > For more options, visit http://groups.google.com/group/houcfug?hl=en > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "Houston > ColdFusion Users' Group" discussion list. > To unsubscribe, send email to [email protected] > For more options, visit http://groups.google.com/group/houcfug?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "Houston ColdFusion Users' Group" discussion list. 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