Thanks, That is useful. I don't have all those printers here. The one thing that I do know is that in all the trade shows all three of the printer manufacturers are out there printing on rc glossy media, and what I saw of the Lucia inks they are really intense, and K3 is good too, they all are pretty good. Sometimes I get the feeling that 90% of the research with these pigments is concerned with glossy media.
I agree that the Ultrachrome seems to do as well as any of them on matte media. john --- In [email protected], "potomacbassfisher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I wouldn't agree with this statement. > > On matte papers the Ultrachrome inks have a larger gamut than any > other ink including K3. Especially where deep colors are involved. > This has been my experience when comparing profiles for equivolent > papers. I would rate matte papers this way when it comes to gamut: > > Ultrachome (Epson 4000, 9600)- best > K3 (Epson 4800, 9800)- Second best > Lucia (Canon IPF line) - Third best > Vivera (Z3100 line) - Fourth best > > It should be noted that the Canon and Vivera may have more potential > when ink seperations (mixing) are improved in the driver but as of > now it looks like this is the order by total gamut volume on a given > matte paper. > > If you are talking photo paper it would probably go (guess): Lucia, > K3, Vivera, Ultrachome but I haven't done as much testing on glossy > and satin profiles on equivolent papers. > > -Jonathan > > --- In [email protected], "john dean" > <deanwork2003@> wrote: > > > > > > I wouldn't expect them to equal the Canon but hopefully comes close > to > > Ultrachrome. Epson doesn't equal Canon gamut either. The HP has > twice > > the longevity of the others and that is significant. I've never > > thought Ultrachrome permanent enough, so I spray with toxic uv > sprays. > > As long as the gamut is acceptable for most situations that is fine > > with me. > > > > John > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Jon Canfield" <jon@> > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "john dean" > > <deanwork2003@> wrote: > > > > > > > > How is the color gamut looking for you guys on the Z3100? There > were > > > > some posts on the Luminous Landscape site that people were > complaining > > > > about dull reds on matte papers. I think that is bunk but I just > > > > wanted to check. There could also have been inconsistent inks > out > > > > there, but that seems unlikely. > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > The reds and yellows don't extend quite as far as they do on the > > Canon iPF for the same > > > paper, but I don't see anything that I'd consider "dull" in hue or > > saturation. > > > > > > Jon Canfield > > > author "RAW 101"; "Print Like a Pro"; Photo Finish"; "The Digital > > SLR Guide" > > > > > > Website: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPDesignJet_Printers Post message: [email protected] Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List owner: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPDesignJet_Printers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPDesignJet_Printers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
