I honestly don't understand what the problem is.  It's a podcast, *just
fast forward*.  I do it with plenty of stuff I listen to.  Sorry if I sound
like a jerk, but I really don't see an issue with the intro length.

Please Ken, don't let one comment stress you out.

(I'm working on several shows to atone for my by attitude on this thread.)

On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 7:26 AM, Ken Fallon <[email protected]> wrote:

> I'm finding it very hard to get a handle on the feedback from this
> thread. Although I suspect that may be a problem on my side.
>
> Can we take the text-to-speech engine and voice out of the discussion
> please as that's a technical and license issue. It *will* improve over
> time and suggestions on that topic can be directed to
> [email protected].
>
> Discussions on whether to include text-to-speech synopsis can and should
> be sent to the mail list.
>
> With that all said can someone please tell me what is considered "to long"
> ?
>
> I include the calculations below but the the length before the episode
> proper is 1 minute 22.47 seconds for those served from
> hackerpublicradio.org and 1 minute 16.44 seconds for those served from
> archive.org. That's an increase of 43.42 and 37.39 seconds respectively.
> For your information the outro is 1 minute.
>
> If we take out the date and the contact information, then the synopsis
> is reduced to 16.54 seconds (in this case), which reduces the total to 1
> minute 13.23 seconds and 1 minute 7.19 seconds.
>
> Then if we move the sponsor mention to the end of the show, as it was
> before, it reduces to 55.59 seconds.
>
> After that we could (probably - no idea how to do it automatically)
> reduce it to 39.05 seconds by having the synopsis overlay the intro
> music. However that means that every show will get the intro added by
> the server. That could be a problem for some hosts as many like to add
> it themselves. On the other hand it would free you to include (or not)
> any theme music you desire, even building your own "brand".
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Ken Fallon
> http://kenfallon.com
> http://hackerpublicradio.org/correspondents.php?hostid=30
>
>
> $ wget --quiet http://hackerpublicradio.org/say.php?id=1648 -O - | grep
> 'HPR_summary: ' | sed 's/HPR_summary: //' | espeak -w /tmp/x.wav;
> ffprobe -i /tmp/x.wav 2>&1 | grep Duration
>   Duration: 00:00:25.78, bitrate: 352 kb/s
>
> $ ffprobe -i intro.flac 2>&1 | grep Duration
>   Duration: 00:00:39.05, bitrate: 700 kb/s
>
> $ ffprobe -i sponsor-anhonesthost.com-hpr15.flac 2>&1 | grep Duration
>   Duration: 00:00:17.64, bitrate: 827 kb/s
>
> $ ffprobe -i sponsor-archive.org.flac 2>&1 | grep Duration
>   Duration: 00:00:11.60, bitrate: 815 kb/s
>
> $ ffprobe -i outro.flac 2>&1 | grep Duration
>   Duration: 00:01:00.87, bitrate: 726 kb/s
>
> $ echo "It's Wednesday 26th of November 2014. This is H P R episode 1648
> entitled \"Bash parameter manipulation\" and is part of the series
> \"Bash Scripting\". It is hosted by  Dave Morriss and is about 41
> minutes long. Feedback can be sent to dave dot morriss at gmail dot com
> or by leaving a comment on this episode. The summary is : \"A summary
> and aide memoire of Bash parameter expansion methods\"" | espeak -w
> /tmp/x.wav; ffprobe -i /tmp/x.wav 2>&1 | grep Duration
>   Duration: 00:00:25.78, bitrate: 352 kb/s
>
> $ echo "This is H P R episode 1648 entitled \"Bash parameter
> manipulation\" and is part of the series \"Bash Scripting\". It is
> hosted by  Dave Morriss and is about 41 minutes long. The summary is :
> \"A summary and aide memoire of Bash parameter expansion methods\"" |
> espeak -w /tmp/x.wav; ffprobe -i /tmp/x.wav 2>&1 | grep Duration
>   Duration: 00:00:16.54, bitrate: 352 kb/s
>
> ----------------------------------
> AnHonest Host
> 25.78   Current synopsis
> 39.05   intro
> 17.64   sponsor AnHonest Host
> 82.47   Total
>
> Archive.org
> 25.78   Current synopsis
> 39.05   intro
> 11.6    sponsor Archive.org
> 76.43   Total
> ----------------------------------
> AnHonest Host
> 16.54   synopsis
> 39.05   intro
> 17.64   sponsor AnHonest Host
> 73.23   Total
>
> Archive.org
> 16.54   synopsis
> 39.05   intro
> 11.6    sponsor Archive.org
> 67.19   Total
> ----------------------------------
> AnHonest Host
> 16.54   synopsis
> 39.05   intro
> 0       sponsor AnHonest Host
> 55.59   Total
>
> Archive.org
> 16.54   synopsis
> 39.05   intro
> 0       sponsor
> 55.59   Total
> ----------------------------------
> AnHonest Host
> 0       synopsis
> 39.05   Intro + Current synopsis
> 0       sponsor AnHonest Host
> 39.05   Total
>
> Archive.org
> 0       synopsis
> 39.05   Intro + Current synopsis
> 0       sponsor Archive.org
> 39.05   Total
> ----------------------------------
>
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