It's a matter of use case. Plenty of people listen to shows when their
hands aren't readily available to fast forward.
On 11/26/2014 08:15 AM, Joshua Burton wrote:
I honestly don't understand what the problem is. It's a podcast, *just
fast forward*. I do it with plenty of stuff I listen to. Sorry if I
sound like a jerk, but I really don't see an issue with the intro length.
Please Ken, don't let one comment stress you out.
(I'm working on several shows to atone for my by attitude on this
thread.)
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 7:26 AM, Ken Fallon <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I'm finding it very hard to get a handle on the feedback from this
thread. Although I suspect that may be a problem on my side.
Can we take the text-to-speech engine and voice out of the discussion
please as that's a technical and license issue. It *will* improve over
time and suggestions on that topic can be directed to
[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>.
Discussions on whether to include text-to-speech synopsis can and
should
be sent to the mail list.
With that all said can someone please tell me what is considered
"to long" ?
I include the calculations below but the the length before the episode
proper is 1 minute 22.47 seconds for those served from
hackerpublicradio.org <http://hackerpublicradio.org> and 1 minute
16.44 seconds for those served from
archive.org <http://archive.org>. That's an increase of 43.42 and
37.39 seconds respectively.
For your information the outro is 1 minute.
If we take out the date and the contact information, then the synopsis
is reduced to 16.54 seconds (in this case), which reduces the
total to 1
minute 13.23 seconds and 1 minute 7.19 seconds.
Then if we move the sponsor mention to the end of the show, as it was
before, it reduces to 55.59 seconds.
After that we could (probably - no idea how to do it automatically)
reduce it to 39.05 seconds by having the synopsis overlay the intro
music. However that means that every show will get the intro added by
the server. That could be a problem for some hosts as many like to add
it themselves. On the other hand it would free you to include (or not)
any theme music you desire, even building your own "brand".
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http://kenfallon.com
http://hackerpublicradio.org/correspondents.php?hostid=30
$ wget --quiet http://hackerpublicradio.org/say.php?id=1648 -O - |
grep
'HPR_summary: ' | sed 's/HPR_summary: //' | espeak -w /tmp/x.wav;
ffprobe -i /tmp/x.wav 2>&1 | grep Duration
Duration: 00:00:25.78, bitrate: 352 kb/s
$ ffprobe -i intro.flac 2>&1 | grep Duration
Duration: 00:00:39.05, bitrate: 700 kb/s
$ ffprobe -i sponsor-anhonesthost.com-hpr15.flac 2>&1 | grep Duration
Duration: 00:00:17.64, bitrate: 827 kb/s
$ ffprobe -i sponsor-archive.org.flac 2>&1 | grep Duration
Duration: 00:00:11.60, bitrate: 815 kb/s
$ ffprobe -i outro.flac 2>&1 | grep Duration
Duration: 00:01:00.87, bitrate: 726 kb/s
$ echo "It's Wednesday 26th of November 2014. This is H P R
episode 1648
entitled \"Bash parameter manipulation\" and is part of the series
\"Bash Scripting\". It is hosted by Dave Morriss and is about 41
minutes long. Feedback can be sent to dave dot morriss at gmail
dot com
or by leaving a comment on this episode. The summary is : \"A summary
and aide memoire of Bash parameter expansion methods\"" | espeak -w
/tmp/x.wav; ffprobe -i /tmp/x.wav 2>&1 | grep Duration
Duration: 00:00:25.78, bitrate: 352 kb/s
$ echo "This is H P R episode 1648 entitled \"Bash parameter
manipulation\" and is part of the series \"Bash Scripting\". It is
hosted by Dave Morriss and is about 41 minutes long. The summary is :
\"A summary and aide memoire of Bash parameter expansion methods\"" |
espeak -w /tmp/x.wav; ffprobe -i /tmp/x.wav 2>&1 | grep Duration
Duration: 00:00:16.54, bitrate: 352 kb/s
----------------------------------
AnHonest Host
25.78 Current synopsis
39.05 intro
17.64 sponsor AnHonest Host
82.47 Total
Archive.org
25.78 Current synopsis
39.05 intro
11.6 sponsor Archive.org
76.43 Total
----------------------------------
AnHonest Host
16.54 synopsis
39.05 intro
17.64 sponsor AnHonest Host
73.23 Total
Archive.org
16.54 synopsis
39.05 intro
11.6 sponsor Archive.org
67.19 Total
----------------------------------
AnHonest Host
16.54 synopsis
39.05 intro
0 sponsor AnHonest Host
55.59 Total
Archive.org
16.54 synopsis
39.05 intro
0 sponsor
55.59 Total
----------------------------------
AnHonest Host
0 synopsis
39.05 Intro + Current synopsis
0 sponsor AnHonest Host
39.05 Total
Archive.org
0 synopsis
39.05 Intro + Current synopsis
0 sponsor Archive.org
39.05 Total
----------------------------------
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