It's a matter of use case. Plenty of people listen to shows when their hands aren't readily available to fast forward.

On 11/26/2014 08:15 AM, Joshua Burton wrote:
I honestly don't understand what the problem is. It's a podcast, *just fast forward*. I do it with plenty of stuff I listen to. Sorry if I sound like a jerk, but I really don't see an issue with the intro length.

Please Ken, don't let one comment stress you out.

(I'm working on several shows to atone for my by attitude on this thread.)

On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 7:26 AM, Ken Fallon <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    I'm finding it very hard to get a handle on the feedback from this
    thread. Although I suspect that may be a problem on my side.

    Can we take the text-to-speech engine and voice out of the discussion
    please as that's a technical and license issue. It *will* improve over
    time and suggestions on that topic can be directed to
    [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>.

    Discussions on whether to include text-to-speech synopsis can and
    should
    be sent to the mail list.

    With that all said can someone please tell me what is considered
    "to long" ?

    I include the calculations below but the the length before the episode
    proper is 1 minute 22.47 seconds for those served from
    hackerpublicradio.org <http://hackerpublicradio.org> and 1 minute
    16.44 seconds for those served from
    archive.org <http://archive.org>. That's an increase of 43.42 and
    37.39 seconds respectively.
    For your information the outro is 1 minute.

    If we take out the date and the contact information, then the synopsis
    is reduced to 16.54 seconds (in this case), which reduces the
    total to 1
    minute 13.23 seconds and 1 minute 7.19 seconds.

    Then if we move the sponsor mention to the end of the show, as it was
    before, it reduces to 55.59 seconds.

    After that we could (probably - no idea how to do it automatically)
    reduce it to 39.05 seconds by having the synopsis overlay the intro
    music. However that means that every show will get the intro added by
    the server. That could be a problem for some hosts as many like to add
    it themselves. On the other hand it would free you to include (or not)
    any theme music you desire, even building your own "brand".

    --
    Regards,

    Ken Fallon
    http://kenfallon.com
    http://hackerpublicradio.org/correspondents.php?hostid=30


    $ wget --quiet http://hackerpublicradio.org/say.php?id=1648 -O - |
    grep
    'HPR_summary: ' | sed 's/HPR_summary: //' | espeak -w /tmp/x.wav;
    ffprobe -i /tmp/x.wav 2>&1 | grep Duration
      Duration: 00:00:25.78, bitrate: 352 kb/s

    $ ffprobe -i intro.flac 2>&1 | grep Duration
      Duration: 00:00:39.05, bitrate: 700 kb/s

    $ ffprobe -i sponsor-anhonesthost.com-hpr15.flac 2>&1 | grep Duration
      Duration: 00:00:17.64, bitrate: 827 kb/s

    $ ffprobe -i sponsor-archive.org.flac 2>&1 | grep Duration
      Duration: 00:00:11.60, bitrate: 815 kb/s

    $ ffprobe -i outro.flac 2>&1 | grep Duration
      Duration: 00:01:00.87, bitrate: 726 kb/s

    $ echo "It's Wednesday 26th of November 2014. This is H P R
    episode 1648
    entitled \"Bash parameter manipulation\" and is part of the series
    \"Bash Scripting\". It is hosted by  Dave Morriss and is about 41
    minutes long. Feedback can be sent to dave dot morriss at gmail
    dot com
    or by leaving a comment on this episode. The summary is : \"A summary
    and aide memoire of Bash parameter expansion methods\"" | espeak -w
    /tmp/x.wav; ffprobe -i /tmp/x.wav 2>&1 | grep Duration
      Duration: 00:00:25.78, bitrate: 352 kb/s

    $ echo "This is H P R episode 1648 entitled \"Bash parameter
    manipulation\" and is part of the series \"Bash Scripting\". It is
    hosted by  Dave Morriss and is about 41 minutes long. The summary is :
    \"A summary and aide memoire of Bash parameter expansion methods\"" |
    espeak -w /tmp/x.wav; ffprobe -i /tmp/x.wav 2>&1 | grep Duration
      Duration: 00:00:16.54, bitrate: 352 kb/s

    ----------------------------------
    AnHonest Host
    25.78   Current synopsis
    39.05   intro
    17.64   sponsor AnHonest Host
    82.47   Total

    Archive.org
    25.78   Current synopsis
    39.05   intro
    11.6    sponsor Archive.org
    76.43   Total
    ----------------------------------
    AnHonest Host
    16.54   synopsis
    39.05   intro
    17.64   sponsor AnHonest Host
    73.23   Total

    Archive.org
    16.54   synopsis
    39.05   intro
    11.6    sponsor Archive.org
    67.19   Total
    ----------------------------------
    AnHonest Host
    16.54   synopsis
    39.05   intro
    0       sponsor AnHonest Host
    55.59   Total

    Archive.org
    16.54   synopsis
    39.05   intro
    0       sponsor
    55.59   Total
    ----------------------------------
    AnHonest Host
    0       synopsis
    39.05   Intro + Current synopsis
    0       sponsor AnHonest Host
    39.05   Total

    Archive.org
    0       synopsis
    39.05   Intro + Current synopsis
    0       sponsor Archive.org
    39.05   Total
    ----------------------------------

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