I'm with Morgellon.  My Fast Forward and skip buttons works just fine.

And its worth repeating, Please Ken, don't let one comment stress you out.


On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 7:15 AM, Joshua Burton <[email protected]> wrote:

> I honestly don't understand what the problem is.  It's a podcast, *just
> fast forward*.  I do it with plenty of stuff I listen to.  Sorry if I
> sound like a jerk, but I really don't see an issue with the intro length.
>
> Please Ken, don't let one comment stress you out.
>
> (I'm working on several shows to atone for my by attitude on this thread.)
>
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 7:26 AM, Ken Fallon <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I'm finding it very hard to get a handle on the feedback from this
>> thread. Although I suspect that may be a problem on my side.
>>
>> Can we take the text-to-speech engine and voice out of the discussion
>> please as that's a technical and license issue. It *will* improve over
>> time and suggestions on that topic can be directed to
>> [email protected].
>>
>> Discussions on whether to include text-to-speech synopsis can and should
>> be sent to the mail list.
>>
>> With that all said can someone please tell me what is considered "to
>> long" ?
>>
>> I include the calculations below but the the length before the episode
>> proper is 1 minute 22.47 seconds for those served from
>> hackerpublicradio.org and 1 minute 16.44 seconds for those served from
>> archive.org. That's an increase of 43.42 and 37.39 seconds respectively.
>> For your information the outro is 1 minute.
>>
>> If we take out the date and the contact information, then the synopsis
>> is reduced to 16.54 seconds (in this case), which reduces the total to 1
>> minute 13.23 seconds and 1 minute 7.19 seconds.
>>
>> Then if we move the sponsor mention to the end of the show, as it was
>> before, it reduces to 55.59 seconds.
>>
>> After that we could (probably - no idea how to do it automatically)
>> reduce it to 39.05 seconds by having the synopsis overlay the intro
>> music. However that means that every show will get the intro added by
>> the server. That could be a problem for some hosts as many like to add
>> it themselves. On the other hand it would free you to include (or not)
>> any theme music you desire, even building your own "brand".
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>>
>> Ken Fallon
>> http://kenfallon.com
>> http://hackerpublicradio.org/correspondents.php?hostid=30
>>
>>
>> $ wget --quiet http://hackerpublicradio.org/say.php?id=1648 -O - | grep
>> 'HPR_summary: ' | sed 's/HPR_summary: //' | espeak -w /tmp/x.wav;
>> ffprobe -i /tmp/x.wav 2>&1 | grep Duration
>>   Duration: 00:00:25.78, bitrate: 352 kb/s
>>
>> $ ffprobe -i intro.flac 2>&1 | grep Duration
>>   Duration: 00:00:39.05, bitrate: 700 kb/s
>>
>> $ ffprobe -i sponsor-anhonesthost.com-hpr15.flac 2>&1 | grep Duration
>>   Duration: 00:00:17.64, bitrate: 827 kb/s
>>
>> $ ffprobe -i sponsor-archive.org.flac 2>&1 | grep Duration
>>   Duration: 00:00:11.60, bitrate: 815 kb/s
>>
>> $ ffprobe -i outro.flac 2>&1 | grep Duration
>>   Duration: 00:01:00.87, bitrate: 726 kb/s
>>
>> $ echo "It's Wednesday 26th of November 2014. This is H P R episode 1648
>> entitled \"Bash parameter manipulation\" and is part of the series
>> \"Bash Scripting\". It is hosted by  Dave Morriss and is about 41
>> minutes long. Feedback can be sent to dave dot morriss at gmail dot com
>> or by leaving a comment on this episode. The summary is : \"A summary
>> and aide memoire of Bash parameter expansion methods\"" | espeak -w
>> /tmp/x.wav; ffprobe -i /tmp/x.wav 2>&1 | grep Duration
>>   Duration: 00:00:25.78, bitrate: 352 kb/s
>>
>> $ echo "This is H P R episode 1648 entitled \"Bash parameter
>> manipulation\" and is part of the series \"Bash Scripting\". It is
>> hosted by  Dave Morriss and is about 41 minutes long. The summary is :
>> \"A summary and aide memoire of Bash parameter expansion methods\"" |
>> espeak -w /tmp/x.wav; ffprobe -i /tmp/x.wav 2>&1 | grep Duration
>>   Duration: 00:00:16.54, bitrate: 352 kb/s
>>
>> ----------------------------------
>> AnHonest Host
>> 25.78   Current synopsis
>> 39.05   intro
>> 17.64   sponsor AnHonest Host
>> 82.47   Total
>>
>> Archive.org
>> 25.78   Current synopsis
>> 39.05   intro
>> 11.6    sponsor Archive.org
>> 76.43   Total
>> ----------------------------------
>> AnHonest Host
>> 16.54   synopsis
>> 39.05   intro
>> 17.64   sponsor AnHonest Host
>> 73.23   Total
>>
>> Archive.org
>> 16.54   synopsis
>> 39.05   intro
>> 11.6    sponsor Archive.org
>> 67.19   Total
>> ----------------------------------
>> AnHonest Host
>> 16.54   synopsis
>> 39.05   intro
>> 0       sponsor AnHonest Host
>> 55.59   Total
>>
>> Archive.org
>> 16.54   synopsis
>> 39.05   intro
>> 0       sponsor
>> 55.59   Total
>> ----------------------------------
>> AnHonest Host
>> 0       synopsis
>> 39.05   Intro + Current synopsis
>> 0       sponsor AnHonest Host
>> 39.05   Total
>>
>> Archive.org
>> 0       synopsis
>> 39.05   Intro + Current synopsis
>> 0       sponsor Archive.org
>> 39.05   Total
>> ----------------------------------
>>
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