It matters but that's a different topic.  The topic at hand is how HPR behaves and the environment it creates and supports.

On 12/16/19 8:35 PM, brian via Hpr wrote:
i believe it does matter how the individuals behave, else there is nothing to discuss... this is the devolution of conversation that i was referring to, and i will not add to this amplification any longer. i have no information, and trust ken.
--brian
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On Dec 16, 2019, 18:24, jason < [email protected]> wrote:


    In my opinion the point at hand is regarding how hpr behaves, not
    how the harassed or harassed behaves.  Those are important points
    but not really the point of the discussion.

    On 12/16/19 7:33 PM, brian via Hpr wrote:
    this kind of escalation seems to be common lately. let us not
    allow it to invade... our community is one of inclusiveness, and
    i have not seen the contrary, except for a brief
    spaceman/vulgarity moment. i feel we were civil in that instance,
    and we can remain so now. realize that tone and tact are left to
    be interpreted by the reader. paul was offering a positive
    thought in my opinion, while it may have been heard as callous to
    jason. i still have no context with this incident, so the
    discussion is of harassment in general. this has many
    connotations to us all.
    --brian
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    On Dec 16, 2019, 16:30, Jason Scott < [email protected]> wrote:


        Spoken like someone who has never really been harassed.

        On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 1:34 PM Paul Quirk <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            At some point, those who are being harassed need to
            recognize the fact
            that they have the power to ignore their harassers and
            recognize that
            engaging with certain personalities that conflict with
            your own as a
            complete waste of your time. Just go on doing what you're
            doing; life's
            too short to not have fun, and I for one think that we
            should all
            consider that perhaps those who are harassing others have
            their own
            personal issues to deal with. If you think of your
            harasser as a 5 year
            old brat who never grew up beyond the playground taunts,
            it becomes much
            easier to dismiss them as such. Seriously though, mental
            illness is a
            big issue in today's high paced, highly competitive,
            stressed out and
            drugged up world, and often finding compassion for those
            you feel are
            harassing you can lead to a long term sense of
            well-being. That's
            another two cents from me, I'm almost up to a nickel now. :)

            On 2019-12-14 10:52 a.m., lostnbronx wrote:
            > When you think about it, it's surprising we haven't had
            this problem
            > before. Unless we did, and it just wasn't brought to light.
            >
            > Can we assume the harassment source was from within the
            community, and
            > not just from random trolls on the Internet? I think
            removing email
            > addresses of hosts is a great first step, at any rate.
            >
            > A CoC would give the admins the power to act without
            having to seek
            > community consensus on every incident. It would also
            provide clear
            > guidelines for community members and admins alike
            regarding how to
            > behave, and what will happen if you don't.
            >
            > It makes me sad that we need this, but I guess we were
            overdue.
            >
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