On 10/17/21 12:49, Ken Fallon wrote:
Hi anarch0re

The intro song is loud, low bitrate sounding trumpet chiptune fanfare, which is 
fine.  The thing is, the shows are often recorded at a low volume level so the 
volume must be adjusted upward to hear them... then after being soothed by a 
soft spoken hacker voice, the blaring, loud chiptunes are blasted again at the 
end of the show.

Fair point and you're not the only one that mentioned this.

We have several volunteers who will help us clean up the audio and help the 
host improve their setup. We will on occasion farm the poor audio out to 
auphonic.com to see if they can fix it.

However you don't mention which show in particular you are having a problem 
with. Or do you feel that this is a problem with all of them ?

I have noticed for my shows that often the intro/outro is louder than my 
recordings, both when I record using my phone or my computer. I have tried to 
boost the audio levels to match the intro and outro. My audio editing skills 
are still minimal, and often my audio would start to sound to harsh when I try 
to amplify it too much. Until today, I didn't think about trying to download 
the intro to use it help match the level.

I did download 
https://hackerpublicradio.org/media/theme-music/intro-music-slick0-cc0-mono.flac. This 
seems to be the standard intro clip used to attach to shows. One thing I did notice when 
importing this clip into my Audacity project, the average volume db levels showing on the 
meter fall between -12db and 0db, often being around -6db. When recording on my phone the 
average levels are between -18db and -12db. Given how "hot" the recording 
levels are for the intro clip along with type of audio it is -- it has a perceived 
loudness much greater than a typical voice recording.

Perhaps a simple solution to the production process for the janitors, is to use 
a clip that has its db levels decreased by -9db to -12db. This range seemed to 
match the loudness of my default recording levels. Granted that would make the 
situation much better for me ;) I have a Samsung Galaxy S9. I am sure the 
recording levels vary to a degree from phone to phone, but maybe a quick survey 
would give an average range to target.

If nothing else, having the intro/outro clips be a little lower than the users content 
would solve the "sleepers" issue. They would turn it up (or not) to hear the 
intro, then turn it down to the desired level while listening to the content. If they 
fall asleep, the outro will be lower and not wake them up.

On another point, I did notice the "Loudness Normalization..." effect in 
Audacity. I am going to try using that for my next show. After editing the main track(s) 
of the show, I will then use this effect to try and bring the level up to the level of 
the intro clip.

Cheers,

Rho`n

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