IMHO any host guilty of holocaust denial should be banned outright, no
questions asked. And not just because it could land the janitors in prison.
Of course they could then just pop up again with another name.
On 09/05/2022 07:40, Ken Fallon wrote:
On 2022-05-08 23:34, DuJeon wrote:
we cannot really offer insight, or an educated response without actual
information. i still do not know the issue with the last show, and
"prison" should definately come with an explanation.
The issue with the previous show was Holocaust denial which is illegal
in the Netherlands.
Google Translated:
"Article 137c 1 He who, in public, orally or in writing or image,
deliberately insults a group of people
because of their race, their religion or belief, their heterosexual or
homosexual orientation or their
physical, psychological or mental disability, shall be punished by
imprisonment of not more than one year
or a fine of the third category."
http://www.wetboek-online.nl/wet/Sr/137c.html
https://www-wetboek--online-nl.translate.goog/wet/Sr/137c.html?_x_tr_sch=http&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp
Luckily the host removed the show as. My wife and I were not willing to
risk prosecution, or suffer the associated reputational damage that
would come even by been seen to be associated with the show.
this is all way too vague and amounts to a discussion around when we
will be screening/disallowing shows.
-brian
At this stage what I am asking for is to move out the show until the
community can decide what to do.
Screening everything may be the way of it in the future. Don't like it,
then if you live in the EU, then contact your rep.
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_20_2347
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Putting down my official Janitor mop of office for a minute. As I see it;
* The Janitors should *NOT* have the right to censor a show.
* The Janitors *DO* have the right not to post the show.
So how do we balance these ?
My own personal opinion is that the system we have in place for the last
nearly 17 years, is working well enough. We get the shows and we
continue to post them without vetting them. If someone complains, and
the claims seem to be valid, the janitors should be able to notify
everyone and postpone it's release until such a time as the community
can decide what to do.
Pretty much what we're doing here.
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