I'm confused. is it the ukraine stuff in the show that is an issue or is there holocaust denial stuff i missed or is it calling the systemd guy a creep the problem? it seems like what ever it is the show is on the website and the "law" of the lowlands has already been violated. brian-in-ohio
On 5/9/22, Mike Ray <[email protected]> wrote: > > > IMHO any host guilty of holocaust denial should be banned outright, no > questions asked. And not just because it could land the janitors in prison. > > Of course they could then just pop up again with another name. > > > > On 09/05/2022 07:40, Ken Fallon wrote: >> On 2022-05-08 23:34, DuJeon wrote: >>> we cannot really offer insight, or an educated response without actual >>> information. i still do not know the issue with the last show, and >>> "prison" should definately come with an explanation. >> >> The issue with the previous show was Holocaust denial which is illegal >> in the Netherlands. >> >> Google Translated: >> >> "Article 137c 1 He who, in public, orally or in writing or image, >> deliberately insults a group of people >> because of their race, their religion or belief, their heterosexual or >> homosexual orientation or their >> physical, psychological or mental disability, shall be punished by >> imprisonment of not more than one year >> or a fine of the third category." >> >> http://www.wetboek-online.nl/wet/Sr/137c.html >> >> https://www-wetboek--online-nl.translate.goog/wet/Sr/137c.html?_x_tr_sch=http&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp >> >> >> >> Luckily the host removed the show as. My wife and I were not willing to >> risk prosecution, or suffer the associated reputational damage that >> would come even by been seen to be associated with the show. >> >> >>> this is all way too vague and amounts to a discussion around when we >>> will be screening/disallowing shows. >>> -brian >>> >>> >> At this stage what I am asking for is to move out the show until the >> community can decide what to do. >> >> Screening everything may be the way of it in the future. Don't like it, >> then if you live in the EU, then contact your rep. >> https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_20_2347 >> >> ---- >> >> Putting down my official Janitor mop of office for a minute. As I see it; >> >> * The Janitors should *NOT* have the right to censor a show. >> * The Janitors *DO* have the right not to post the show. >> >> So how do we balance these ? >> >> My own personal opinion is that the system we have in place for the last >> nearly 17 years, is working well enough. We get the shows and we >> continue to post them without vetting them. If someone complains, and >> the claims seem to be valid, the janitors should be able to notify >> everyone and postpone it's release until such a time as the community >> can decide what to do. >> >> Pretty much what we're doing here. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hpr mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org > > > -- > Michael A. Ray > Software engineer > Witley, Surrey, South-east UK > > He/him/cis > > "Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when > there is nothing left to take away." -- A. de Saint-Exupery > > > > _______________________________________________ > Hpr mailing list > [email protected] > http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org > _______________________________________________ Hpr mailing list [email protected] http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org
