type in the orientation & position?  how?

i'm interested.

Dale

On Tue, 2010-06-22 at 08:54 -0700, Aron H wrote:
> I definitely agree here. The Gigapan robot and it's Stitcher software
> show how easy it can be to get that initial layout with constraints -
> it always takes pictures on a grid, so you just have to specify how
> many rows there are, and suddenly you can preview the shape and
> content of your panorama from a grid of thumbnails.
> 
> I realize this is too constrained for many applications, but if you
> are taking pictures on a Nodal Ninja or other panorama head, the user
> could specify rows/columns and spacing fairly easily, to get started.
> Next, we might add the ability to have rows of different lengths, and
> a separate spot to put 'free' pictures like an overhead/straight down
> shot.
> 
> Then, the control point generators could look only at overlapping
> pictures, and avoid the swirling knots that sometimes result from
> totally 'free' alignment.
> 
> As a user, the way I work around this right now is using template
> projects. For a particular shooting pattern, I type in the orientation
> of each of the photos, and save the project as a template...
> 
> Regards,
> Aron
> 
> On Jun 22, 10:25 am, Tom Sharpless <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hi Mark
> >
> > You have put your finger on a major weakness in Hugin's stitching
> > flow.
> >
> > There should be an "alignment" tab that lets you see and adjust the
> > layout of photos, whether or not it has been "optimized".
> > And there should be some alignment procedures in the software, that
> > operate at a higher level than just minimizing the average squared
> > distance for all control points.
> >
> > Some progress is being made on these needs, but it has not yet come
> > together as a complete package offering a smooth user experience.
> > There is a new graphical "layout" facility, and eventually the
> > "panomatic" control point finder will use layout information to
> > improve the quality of its control points.  But I don't think anybody
> > is working on high level alignment algorithms at present.
> >
> > It would be nice if Hugin could do automatic alignment as well as
> > PTGui does.  I don't know what is inside, but it is clear from the
> > outside that PTGui's alignment algorithm has 4 or 5 major steps, the
> > last of which is optimization.  However PTGui doesn't offer the user
> > any control over this procedure, or allow one to specify the starting
> > layout.  Both of which could ultimately make for quicker and better
> > alignments.
> >
> > Cheers,  Tom
> >
> > Some progress
> >
> > On Jun 22, 9:31 am, Markkk <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi
> >
> > > First: many thanks to all the contributers of hugin and tools. Great
> > > achievment!
> >
> > > Just a small usability issue: it took me a long time to figure out,
> > > which of the tabs corresponds to the "2. Align..." step of the
> > > Assistant.
> >
> > > From my [foreign language] understanding, the word "optimise" denotes
> > > "further refinement". An act of improving an otherwise complete
> > > result. A step that could even be left out for a crude first look
> > > (which obviously is not the case here).
> >
> > > Kepts dismissing that tab as "yeah, we can optimise later, where the
> > > heck is alignment?" ;-)
> >
> > > -Mark
> 


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