Hi Yuv,

Yes, I am glad to be back to this forum after having to step away for
about 6 months.  Had too much going on with a change in my job!  I
have been working through about 3000 photos from a recent trip to
Dresden, so my computer has been non-stop with projects for a while
now.  My photos can be found along with some description of the
process here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/rueike/

Regards,
Rick

On Dec 27, 8:50 pm, Yuval Levy <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Rick,
>
> On December 27, 2010 06:20:34 am RueiKe wrote:
>
> > Thanks Yuv for your very detailed response!
>
> happy to read that it helped.
>
> > I can usually acheive about 0.3 pixel mean error for a 16k wide pano.
>
> beware of this metrics.  It is blind to the quality of the CPs and thus to the
> real quality of the panorama, and I think that if we want to make Hugin more
> user friendy, we should remove the number all together and replace them with
> "likely to be very good / well / poorly / badly aligned" instead.
>
> I've had a long discussion about this metrics with somebody else on this list
> a few months back.
>
> > For this project, the intital alignment looked fine.  It was when I
> > removed the outlier control points and realigned when I ran into
> > problems.
>
> removing the outlier is a blind process as well.  If you have, for example, a
> lot of features in the foreground that "captures" the majority of the CPs, the
> background CPs will be declared outliers, even if it is known that the further
> away from the camera a CP is located, the less sensitive it is to parallax and
> other negative factors.  And if those front features are in movement, the
> statistics are toast.
>
> > Seems like my choice for optimization parameters may have
> > caused the problems.
>
> probably the immediate one, yes.  It seems to me that you have the potential
> to bring your process to the next level and if you want you will find helpful
> feedback here on the list.
>
> > Let me try it again when I finish my current
> > project.  Should be able to report back in a few days.  If I continue
> > to have problems, I will open a bug report.
>
> OK.  Looking forward for your report - preferably a link to your flickr
> gallery ;-)
>
> Yuv
>
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