I was thinking more about this, and whether an external logger with sync 
(like you do with gps) would be possible

and the answer is definitely NO - GPS is very course, and in practical 
purposes, you can have the sync off by a few seconds and the photos will 
still have correct location data. not the case with the position of the 
camera in space. and there is no way you can synchronize a non-tethered 
device within 1/100 of a second or whatever it takes to correctly 
synchronize such data. 

so a device like this will have to be tethered.

in terms of the compass.... i've noticed using my analog compass that i 
can't hold it too close to my camera or it is wrong. so i wonder how an 
electronic compass will be able to deal with that.

finally, in terms of custom exif data.... if we are to build this for 
nikon, we'll need to hack the position data inside the exif data.  i don't 
think there will be any other way. we'll see ;)

now, what nikon slr should i buy? i've been a canon guy up till now :(


On Tuesday, December 6, 2011 11:24:10 AM UTC+1, Oskar Sander wrote:
>
> Right, I was going to say the same. Most iphone and andorid phone has this 
> capability, soon every little gadget will too. The camera producers need to 
> se the benefit though.   Which I think instant panorama, 3D application etc 
> would be.
>
> With GPS there are add ons to e.g. Lightroom that correlates at GPS track 
> with photo timestamp and add position in metadata.   This electronic 
> tripod/attitude could work the same.
>
> Cheers
> /O
>
> 2011/12/6 Jeffrey Martin <[email protected]>
>
>> HI Kay,
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 6, 2011 8:52:59 AM UTC+1, kfj wrote:
>> A few years ago we had phones. Now we have smartphones. Let's hope we
>>
>>> also get 'smartcameras'.
>>>
>>
>> I have very little hope at this point. Or, you could consider that "they" 
>> (canon, nikon, etc.) might do it, 5 or 10 years after you think they should 
>> ;)
>>
>>  
>>
>>> When I look at the computing capacity of my
>>> camera (as revealed by the quite sophisticated image processing) and
>>> contrast that to the meagre essentials my firmware allows me to
>>> manipulate, I feel cheated somehow...
>>>
>>
>> Totally. It is outrageous in fact. There is so much possible, and so 
>> little being done, in the cameras. It is a shame. And they can't even open 
>> up the camera to allow user scripting. WTF? :(
>>
>>
>>  
>>
>>> I hope open firmware takes off.
>>>
>>> GPS has already made it's way into compact cameras, quite probably
>>> because geotagging can instantly be recognized by a significant part
>>> of the general public as a useful feature. 
>>>
>>
>> Well, there is still the problem of battery life. I think this is one of 
>> the biggest factors about why there isn't GPS in more cameras. But still 
>> that's a pretty lame excuse.
>>  
>>
>>> Inclinometer data might be
>>> sold to the public as an aid to automatically level the horizon, and
>>> since that is one of the commonest photographic mistakes it might be
>>> the route for these devices into cameras.
>>>
>>> Mind you, probably into compact cameras - and if you have a DSLR
>>> you'll be asked to fork out 500$ for some bulky stick-on device which
>>> only works with the top of the range and drains your battery in no
>>> time. The device you dream of sticking to your camera seems like
>>> overkill to me. Nice-to-have, but really one of the small sensors like
>>> those inside a smartphone would do the trick well enough - and they
>>> are much cheaper, as well :)
>>>
>>
>> That's a good point. It's true that the phones have the same sensors 
>> (magnetometer, accelerometer, gyroscope). You could make an iphone/android 
>> app to do the same thing.Trouble is of course, how to stick the phone on 
>> your camera's flash hot-shoe? :-)))
>>  
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