So many good pieces of info from everybody. Thanks.

I'm uploading a new video that uses some of the input you've provided. The 
no-optimize helped a lot with the walking blending issue. I even generate 
the blend masks on the first input file and use it on all subsequent files. 
Presumably that saves a bit of time.

The new video will be live at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2nkUhQ-RvY

Parallax is not expected to present too much of a problem as the majority 
of the frames will be with the control points at infinity. For the cases 
where they're not I'll decide how to handle them at that time.

Jan, you mentioned not adjusting the exposure so as to prevent flicker. 
That makes sense (and I do see some flicker across the whole scene in this 
new video), however, how am I supposed to fix the over/under exposed images 
when they're no longer pointing at the bright sun/dark shadows? This is 
definitely not going to be a static platform and I won't have the luxury of 
making sure the rig never rotates.

I won't be able to configure the template beforehand. Each run will be 
unique and will have to be tailored to that run.

I 100% agree with Jan on the control-point selection GUI improvements. I'm 
not in the ideal use case and I really feel the impact of an inflexible 
control point selection process. I can even see the case for allowing 
control point selection to be done with two overlapping images that you 
"pin" a control point to. Allow me to skew and rotate the images and pan 
them around to get a feature lined up as best I can simply for control 
point selection. It wouldn't be locked to that pin and, in fact, the pin 
shouldn't be visible once established in this skew mode. My problem is that 
the only overlap I have is in the far reaches of the images where they're 
most distorted. Picking out features in two images that aren't rotated 
similarly and are up to 12 inches apart on my screen makes it pretty 
difficult to determine if that bright blob is the same rock in both images.


On Saturday, July 21, 2012 6:41:05 PM UTC-5, Jan Martin wrote:
>
> I got this result last year:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6DMSjtrTP0
>
> You need to get the seams right first.
> Be aware that a template will work for a single distance only. 
> So you need to know what kind of situation you will shoot later, and make 
> a template for that exact situation.
> E.g. ALL control points at 10 meters from the camera. 
> Yours are at 5 meters on the sand, and at the horizon in the opposite 
> direction.
> Also there are absolutely no cps on all the the seams of sky and asphalt.
> That will never work.
>
> From my experience using a tripod and setting up in a small clearing in 
> the woods with 10 meter diameter to high trees really works well.
> You need lots of features at ALL the seams. 
> Then place the cps manually because you do not have the overlap nor the 
> resolution for any automatic cp finder to ever work.
>
> Like Bruno suggested use "enblend --no-optimize" to avoid flickering of 
> the seams.
>
> Also you need decent images for making the template. Shoot at around noon 
> for that.
> Not very late in the afternoon with the sun close to the horizon, screwing 
> up the images.
>
> What I did when trying your images was to close hugin, make a copy of 
> 2-2.png, change brightness and saturation in Gimp until I could actually 
> see something, then use that image for manual cps. Then close hugin, rename 
> images back.
> Open hugin and optimize for exposure with the original image.
>
> This is the pano I got:
> http://bit.ly/NH6Fdb
>
> Temp image for control points only:
> http://bit.ly/QbYjNL
>
> For shooting later: 
> Avoid shooting at dusk and dawn, the cameras you use are known to be bad 
> with low-light situations.
> Also do not optimize for exposure at all or the resulting video will 
> flicker. Like yours does.
>
> While we are at it:
> It would be nice to have a way to adjust brightness and saturation for the 
> images at the hugin control points tab.
> Just to help place cps, nothing else.
>
> And It would be even better to have a way to rotate the images on the 
> control points tab.
> Maybe even have an extra button to take over the rotation from the preview 
> window.
>
> Any developer reading this?
>
> Jan
>

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