My camera rotates. I'd like to try to remove the rotation. I've got a 
couple systems setup to help me retrieve the rotation data from frame to 
frame. I am wondering how to apply that data pre-stitching, rather than my 
current method of post-stitching. I noticed when I move the center of the 
stitched image in the GL Preview that it modifies all of the yaw/pitch/roll 
components for each image. Is there an easy way to apply a, for example, 
yaw of 4 degrees before creating the panorama? I can't very well go in and 
align each one by hand.


On Sunday, July 22, 2012 11:17:06 AM UTC-5, Caleb wrote:
>
> So many good pieces of info from everybody. Thanks.
>
> I'm uploading a new video that uses some of the input you've provided. The 
> no-optimize helped a lot with the walking blending issue. I even generate 
> the blend masks on the first input file and use it on all subsequent files. 
> Presumably that saves a bit of time.
>
> The new video will be live at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2nkUhQ-RvY
>
> Parallax is not expected to present too much of a problem as the majority 
> of the frames will be with the control points at infinity. For the cases 
> where they're not I'll decide how to handle them at that time.
>
> Jan, you mentioned not adjusting the exposure so as to prevent flicker. 
> That makes sense (and I do see some flicker across the whole scene in this 
> new video), however, how am I supposed to fix the over/under exposed images 
> when they're no longer pointing at the bright sun/dark shadows? This is 
> definitely not going to be a static platform and I won't have the luxury of 
> making sure the rig never rotates.
>
> I won't be able to configure the template beforehand. Each run will be 
> unique and will have to be tailored to that run.
>
> I 100% agree with Jan on the control-point selection GUI improvements. I'm 
> not in the ideal use case and I really feel the impact of an inflexible 
> control point selection process. I can even see the case for allowing 
> control point selection to be done with two overlapping images that you 
> "pin" a control point to. Allow me to skew and rotate the images and pan 
> them around to get a feature lined up as best I can simply for control 
> point selection. It wouldn't be locked to that pin and, in fact, the pin 
> shouldn't be visible once established in this skew mode. My problem is that 
> the only overlap I have is in the far reaches of the images where they're 
> most distorted. Picking out features in two images that aren't rotated 
> similarly and are up to 12 inches apart on my screen makes it pretty 
> difficult to determine if that bright blob is the same rock in both images.
>
>
> On Saturday, July 21, 2012 6:41:05 PM UTC-5, Jan Martin wrote:
>>
>> I got this result last year:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6DMSjtrTP0
>>
>> You need to get the seams right first.
>> Be aware that a template will work for a single distance only. 
>> So you need to know what kind of situation you will shoot later, and make 
>> a template for that exact situation.
>> E.g. ALL control points at 10 meters from the camera. 
>> Yours are at 5 meters on the sand, and at the horizon in the opposite 
>> direction.
>> Also there are absolutely no cps on all the the seams of sky and asphalt.
>> That will never work.
>>
>> From my experience using a tripod and setting up in a small clearing in 
>> the woods with 10 meter diameter to high trees really works well.
>> You need lots of features at ALL the seams. 
>> Then place the cps manually because you do not have the overlap nor the 
>> resolution for any automatic cp finder to ever work.
>>
>> Like Bruno suggested use "enblend --no-optimize" to avoid flickering of 
>> the seams.
>>
>> Also you need decent images for making the template. Shoot at around noon 
>> for that.
>> Not very late in the afternoon with the sun close to the horizon, 
>> screwing up the images.
>>
>> What I did when trying your images was to close hugin, make a copy of 
>> 2-2.png, change brightness and saturation in Gimp until I could actually 
>> see something, then use that image for manual cps. Then close hugin, rename 
>> images back.
>> Open hugin and optimize for exposure with the original image.
>>
>> This is the pano I got:
>> http://bit.ly/NH6Fdb
>>
>> Temp image for control points only:
>> http://bit.ly/QbYjNL
>>
>> For shooting later: 
>> Avoid shooting at dusk and dawn, the cameras you use are known to be bad 
>> with low-light situations.
>> Also do not optimize for exposure at all or the resulting video will 
>> flicker. Like yours does.
>>
>> While we are at it:
>> It would be nice to have a way to adjust brightness and saturation for 
>> the images at the hugin control points tab.
>> Just to help place cps, nothing else.
>>
>> And It would be even better to have a way to rotate the images on the 
>> control points tab.
>> Maybe even have an extra button to take over the rotation from the 
>> preview window.
>>
>> Any developer reading this?
>>
>> Jan
>>
>

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