Thanks for the response Trev Smart Grid is IT - The powerline back-haul carrier IS Smart Grid. You've got 915 (mainly metering), WiFi, meshWiFi, WiMAX, then 956MHz Zigbee.
Yep, transformers, capacitor banks - All part of harmonics (phase balancing), band pass filtering. That's where you're different in the UK too - your transformers supply 100-500 houses/homes, etc. over here it's 6-10. The ball-game is totally skew-whiff here. There is one back- haul carrier vendor over here that says they can "smash" a signal through a transformer and drive it a 140 miles from its source - THAT'S power. 200KHz - Yep, that's normal, 300-1200bps. That stuff hurts no one. Attenuation is virtually exponential as you go up, particularly after 1MHz - Drags large amounts of power out with it too. Acts like PNP solid-state electronics. "State of play" you're going to have to dig for - It's out there, hidden out in the open, can't see the wood for the trees. Freedom of Information and all that. CISCO introduced a 40GHz modem this year, multiplexes 4X10GHz from 4 X 6.81GHz Point-to-Point VPN's. My guess is they're going to skip UHF, too crowded already. Smart Grid is just above 900MHz and won't go near the 2.4GHz crowded spots. So "they" went right in there at the relaxation frequency of protien-based water (living tissue) for God's sakes! It's been notched, ARRL saw to that. Problem is this stuff leaks like crazy, amplifies itself with the power in the transmisison lines as it leaves them, Drags microwave frequencies in the carrier and the wireless meshWiFi (on the poles) with it. Frickin' all over the place mess. POOR OLD GLORIA - Sorry dear! We're right in the middle of something here - Trev and I have been going at it for a few days! But I guess you're getting the gist of things. Things just heated up a bit! Trev/Will - Not bragging here - But I am the world's foremost expert on Smart Grid, I made myself discover it all after I found out that it was Smart Grid doing my (Hum) noise that had me on my knees. Nobody does that to me. It did help that I knew this stuff already. I will help in any way that I can. If it works here and it's got "them" looking for the corner, then it'll work anywhere. No conjecture - Fire all guns with known facts. "They" know it's wrong and illegal - Therefore "they" will be ontheir guard more and more fragile. GO FOR THE SPOT WITH MISSING SCALE! On Dec 2, 3:29 pm, Trev <[email protected]> wrote: > It's not my petition Vic- I just supported it. > OK it's not the same as the Smart Grid stuff that I need to get into > further. > I will chase the leads on 915 MHz etc. You're aware that the UHF stuff > is stopped by transformers and only operates in local networks > effectively. > Also, that the existing system for countrywide control is up to > 200Khz. > I can't make out the state of play for implementation in the UK for > the 915MHz equipment- I just get the feeling that it's still in > development, so even if needing to be watched, is not years old - > history wise, like the hum. Still the subject of debate in the UK. > I see that UHF @ 100Mhz is also in development but without the ELF > switching employed for multiplexing [ as in TETRA, Police Radio UK] > none of these higher freqs would seem natural candidates for hum > generation. > I assume you feel that the low freq side has not been effectively > notched out [or even recognised ] in the US, and can cause Hum? > OP [Gloria] may feel that she has fallen into a techno babble world in > this post- but at least can take some consolation that people are > fighting back in their various ways! > > On Dec 2, 7:49 pm, Vic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Trev - I'm trying to help here HONEST. > > > First I'll address a point you made regarding your hum being lower > > frequency than North American 58.27 to 63.73Hz - We're on 60Hz power, > > the carrier wave signal is stuffed IN BETWEEN the electrical power > > sine wave (which is 5,500 miles long here and 6,600 miles long there). > > That would make YOUR hum 83.3333r% OUR hum. Yous is then 48.56-53.11Hz > > - Sound about right? The UK Smart Grid back-haul carrier signal is > > based on 915MHz, NA 956MHz. And this thing is not about "smart" meters > > - That's where "they" sidetrack everybody - This is about the "Mother" > > signal controlling it all, IN THE POWER LINES - 7.2KV to 138KV. THAT'S > > what you hear, and it's THAT that "they" are attempting to keep > > secret. Everywhere is the SAME - It's the same equipment/software > > globally - Amperion (or licensed vendor) based, BPL Global (or like) > > software programming. There's a poopload of company's that have sprung > > up - I mean thousands of 'em. > > > Trev - I don't think that you'll get a petition going. "They" will > > kill it. IDEA!!!!!! - Take my letter appearing here (the one without > > any responses) and tailor it to fit your country. It's the same > > equipment, same back-haul carrier frequencies. Mail it to your > > electrical company and/or local council and/or MP, etc. Start > > something moving. My gmail address is [email protected] - Anyone who > > specifically asks for info I've researched and collected via that > > email address will get it. > > > This week things have really quietened down here hum-wise. "They" got > > my letter and the Exhibit CD on Monday - Couple of days to ripple > > through........... > > > Gloria - Sorry about that. Needed to get that explained. Contact me on > > my gmail address please, I'll send you some "ease the pain a little > > tips". Also my data fits your problem, we're on the same electrical > > grid. > > > On Dec 2, 1:33 pm, Trev <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Everywhere is different in terms of what could be the problem. > > > I recently put this link on Facebook for a petition [UK] against the > > > area monitors similar to your > > > mention.http://www.smartmeterpetition.org/health > > > Fibre optics have screening, in fact their long transmission depends > > > on low loss and regular amplification- but local microwave hubs are a > > > different matter and from the videos shown,can be heard to be > > > radically different to hum as normally reported. > > > > On Dec 2, 5:45 pm, Vic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Local electric utility installing BPL power line carrier wave Gloria - > > > > I lived with it for 20 months before I found out what it was. Nobody > > > > else here can hear it either. But ultimately i found others were > > > > affected. It drove me into the ground, literally. No, it never stops. > > > > It's for reading the power line equipment, including your meter, and > > > > for internet access. Have they been putting up a lot of big, black > > > > cables on the poles lately? They're fiber optic cables, the long black > > > > boxes on them are recievers/amplifiers. > > > > > I posted a letter here that I sent to the electric utility and the > > > > Pennsylvania Public Utilities Commission. It's pretty self-explanitory > > > > after you've read it. "They" know you're suffering along with quite a > > > > few others. Windsor, Ontario was the latest - They put that down to > > > > under-lake noise from Zug Island. But it's not. > > > > > The emissions get into the wiring in your house - That's why it's > > > > always louder indoors. The darn stuff leaks from the power lines like > > > > a seive. > > > > > Call your electric company after you've read my letter. Tell them what > > > > you know and they'll deny it's existence. But don't be put off - There > > > > are plenty of people in your area that can hear it alright, 2-10%, age > > > > group 50-60. > > > > > There you go everyone here - This lady can put an exact date on it. > > > > what do you say now? > > > > > On Dec 2, 10:50 am, Gloria Gardiner <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Hum Sufferers" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hum-sufferers?hl=en.
