Trev - Your last line says it all! Catch 'em with the numbers on their own rules, regulations, and laws. and when you do, shove it in HARD - "They" show no mercy so vice versa is the case.
My attitude towards nailing "them" is go in with all the technical complexities spread out in front of you (me) and state your case without leaving any stone unturned and no question that's fired at you unanswerable. That's why I was casting about on this forum - In an attempt to get more ammo and to pass my research info on to others so that they have the "jump" on it. I have 57 multiple-part exhibits already loaded on the PA PUC case file for this complaint with another 50 or so about to follow. I'm even going to this Leventhall guy as a lever - Thanks Doc for shooting yourself in the foot. 7-17Hz Sonic "Gun" - Imagine walking around the corner and falling to your knees in pain for (apparently) no reason. Imagine next your eyeballs exploding. Then they turn it up through a few more dBC and your internal organs rupture. "They" are firing this crap at US right now plus a poopload of microwaves. No mercy. I aim to nail "them" to the wall by the balls. And yeah, I went in The Mermaid a few times. :) On Dec 14, 4:13 pm, Trev <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks for that Vic- but I won't be digging there that deep, just > yet :) > The other thing that struck me in that report [last line] - is that > these ELF frequencies are stated to be well below the hearing > threshold.[ for <40Hz] > We know that you don't have to hear a sound to be affected by it, Hum > or Not- that's why crowd control methods are banned world wide, that > use these ELF techniques. So, even though this report is not to my > liking, it does highlight exactly how the regulatory system is > bamboozled by technical details and. in the process, establishing a > bench mark that 'average is OK', 'seeing [hearing] is believing' and > numbers can prove anything you want, if you're smart! > > On Dec 14, 7:55 pm, Vic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Yep, Wind turbines are a different ballgame altogether alright. But > > this guy Leventhall debunks all the health issues while looking the > > affected people standing in courtroom in the eye. All of this Hum > > noise is very, very close to "normal" hearing thresholds. Most people > > can actually hear Hum if conditions are right. > > > Trev - I made a typo in the AP Tuner frequency calculation that I > > explained earlier. Corrected it goes like this: > > > The subharmonic frequencies that you see on AP Tuner are dBA. The > > reason that "normal" instruments don't pick them up is because of > > their very short duration period, only 11-15 microseconds according to > > my calculations. AP Tuner is compact and the algorithm is lightning > > fast, as you have seen yourself, took me a while to find it I can tell > > you. > > > Now, once you have sutracted the subharmonic from the nearest harmonic > > UP of 50/60 hertz in AP Tuner's dBA-weighting you have to do a dBC- > > weighting calculation to get to the REAL noise level. As I stated the > > other day, it's about a third of the dBA value added to get to dBC- > > weighted value. There are calculators all over the internet for that > > purpose, simple calculation. That's it - It needed clarifying ASAP. > > > Again, FCC regulates dBC noise emission level at 20dBC in the USA. The > > EU regulatory agencies were probably first to include the 20dBC limit > > and the USA followed - All you have to do is find references to it. I > > gave you guys some probable starting points in earlier posts. > > > On Dec 14, 2:29 pm, Trev <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > From 'that' report, interesting to see that at the Hum candidate > > > 31.5Hz only 5 dB separates the threshold from audible pickup of Wind > > > Turbine noise at that frequency. Not much more than a doubling of > > > sensitivity to that would make it audible but is considered in the > > > report to be not average capability- so "allright then"? > > > Now this is for WindTurbines , not hum -where the levels are likely to > > > be different across the spectrum and in level, but it highlights to me > > > the way the non average are forgotten when it comes to assessing > > > impact on the general public at large. > > > > Freq Hz 10 12.5 16 20 25 31.5 40 50 63 80 100 125 160 > > > 200 > > > Level dB 63 62 61 59 57 55 53 50 48 46 44 42 > > > 42 39 > > > T/hold dB 97 92 88 79 69 60 51 44 38 32 27 22 > > > 18 14 > > > > In this comparison table, where the difference is positive, that is up > > > to about 31.5 > > > – 40Hz, the wind turbine sound is not audible to the "average > > > person" [my added quotes] . > > > The low infrasound frequencies are well below the hearing threshold. > > > > On Dec 14, 3:17 pm, Vic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > What began as cursory glance to check on this guy’s whereabouts spread > > > > into following links all over the world. Boy, has this guy been > > > > around. As previously stated, just type in his name – See all of this > > > > crap pop up from all over associated with the same few like minded > > > > people. > > > > > Story starts off in 2004-2006 when he was actively AGAINST low- > > > > frequency noise as a result of detrimental health effects on the > > > > populace in general. Changed his mind during that period and went the > > > > opposite way. He’s been all over the world testifying in front of > > > > government panels and courtrooms that LF is HARMLESS. According to the > > > > good Dr. and his buddy's this stuff that we're experiencing doesn't > > > > harm you in any way. Read some of this crap, especially the court > > > > appearance in Wisconsin: > > > > >http://www.wwnw.org/uploads/home/Geoff%20Leventhall.pdf > > > > > Now there’s a switcheroo for ya! > > > > > He’s been LF on wind farms mainly, but guess who owns the wind farms? > > > > Electricity utility companies.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Hum Sufferers" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hum-sufferers?hl=en.
