Hola Ulrich and all, Ulrich, I have answered off-list.
But for all: do people know the music of Marc Egea or Abel Garcia? Their music is not "as far out" as Valentine´s but also very exiting combining traditional with experimental elements. Cheers Christa 2009/2/5 Ulrich Joosten <[email protected]>: > > Hi Christa, > > so we have seen the same concert at St.-Chartier! Actually I did a review of > St.-Chartier concerts for the German folk music magazine "Folker!" and > especially this concert overwhelmed me. Yes, I saw a lot of great players > arise after Valentin and I had not seen him for years, but this concert > convinced me: he is STILL the master. Let me check - maybe I have some > photographs of this event. If you like I could send some via PN or if there > is interest I might post them for the list. > > The CD "Great masters of the Hurdy Gurdy I guess contains the whole first LP > "La vielle à roué de l'imaginaire" as well as half of his 2nd album which is > (as to my knowledge) not re-issued on CD and not listed at Valentin's > website. But I might be wrong about that ... > > I suspect, the CD "heresia" might be totally sold out. I saw some offers on > Amazon, but people ask astronomical prices for it. You may probably conctact > Valentin directly asking if he has some copies left to sell. Good luck. > > Best regards, > Ulrich > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Im > Auftrag von Christa Muths > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. Februar 2009 08:58 > An: [email protected] > Betreff: [HG-new] Re: Valentin's music > > > Hola folks, hola Ulrich, > > I am a fan of Valentin´s playing. I had never heard of him before I > went to St. Chartier 2 years ago and saw him playing. My friend who > was with me fled in disgust whereas I stayed enchanted!! (we are still > friends though!) I feel his music opens up new dimensions. > > I love Jazz and also Blues and used to listen to avangarde Jazz Sunday > mornings in Frankfurt at the Römer. > > I have been trying to get "Heresia" but to no avail. Where can it be > bought Ulrich? My hurdy gurdy teacher here in Valencia has Valentin´s > teaching book and says it is very good. I will try to buy it although > I do not speak French but I have a hg teaching book by Marc Egea > written in Catalunian and I can work with it. > > Recently I found a CD by Valentin: Great Masters of the Hurdy Gurdy. > It has 22 tunes, traditional and also modern ones. Great listening. > > Cheers > > Christa > > > > 2009/2/4 Ulrich Joosten <[email protected]>: >> Hello folks, >> >> >> >> well – Valentin's music is not everybody's cup of tea for sure. And it was >> not either the day he showed up at St.-Chartier two and a half decades > ago, >> playing his music and changing the hurdy-gurdy ever since. Not really >> co-incidence (even if he asserts it is) that later on he called a CD >> "Heresia": When he started to revolutionize either playing techniques >> developing new ways of playing far beyond the pure traditional techniques > as >> well as instruments by challenging luthiers to adapt their instruments for >> his then unique playing style, many traditionalists called him a Judas and > / >> or heretic. But no one can deny that he has had an impact on the modern >> hurdy-gurdy like no other. Without him, probably a small couple of hard > core >> gurdyists would still sit gathering in Central France playing "Bourrée >> carrée de St.-Chartier" and no one would give a damn. In his first years >> Valentin split up the gurdy players in two fractions: the ones who > screamed >> "traitor" and the others who adapted a famous citation and said "Clastrier >> is god". Neither of these extreme positions is true, but without any doubt >> he is and was the most influential hurdy-gurdy player who made the >> difference – without him the instrument would still not be accepted as a >> fully-fledged instrument but be smiled at by professional classical >> instrumentalists, as a necessary evil to stage Leopold Mozart's >> "Bauernhochzeit". >> >> >> >> I can understand that Valentins music is not for anybody's taste and this > is >> very okay – since you can't argue on taste. For me also much of his music >> does not really touch my heart, especially in case Valentin plays jazz > music >> together with Michael Riessler and Carlo Rizzo. These recordings are > deeply >> impressing qua virtuosity of three individuals together on highest level. >> But me personally, I can't stand this music any longer than 5 minutes. > Yes, >> it impresses my brain, but not my heart. Nevertheless, there are CDs by >> Valentin that are worth listening, to name his first recordings on "La >> vielle à roue de l'imaginaire". And if one day you get the chance to see >> Valentin life on stage – please do yourself a favour, put aside your >> objections and go for it. This may change your perspective sustainable. >> Seeing him solo life on stage – THAT is the moment when he touches me >> deeply. Valentin does not only use the hurdy-gurdy as a percussion >> instrument by simultaneously playing and tapping it – at the same time he >> also uses a kind of big wooden stomp box with a mike inside for percussive >> effects played with his feet. One has to see this before believing it … > Any >> time I see and hear him playing I get inspired wishing that I could do > just >> a little of what he can do and it highly motivates me to rehearse. >> >> >> >> Even if one does not like Valentin's music I would highly recommend his > new >> book "La vielle & l'univers de l'infinie roue-archet". The DVD included >> showcases his coup-de-poignet techniques and your eyes may pop out seeing >> what is possible. All his various coups are illustrated with a kind of >> wheel-position-mandalas and also you can see them animated on the DVD. >> Unfortunately, it is in French only, but if you can read French a little > or >> if you have somebody at hand who could translate, than the book would >> probably help to improve your playing. >> >> >> >> Sincerely yours, >> >> Ulrich >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> Von: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Im >> Auftrag von Jim Petersen >> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 4. Februar 2009 21:04 >> An: [email protected] >> Betreff: [HG-new] Re: Valentin's music >> >> >> >> I find it interesting how taste varies from individual to individual. > How >> do we arrive at these different tastes, what stimulus while we were > growing >> up formed these variances? Although I do not doubt the man's talent for a >> minute the "perfect" word I can use to describe what I heard, especially > at >> his site is "cacophony". >> >> I do not know if it is my simplistic approach to life or my lack of music >> theory but I think "if you are going to play music make sure it has a >> point, it makes it more interesting for the listener." >> >> This is not meant as a dig to the performer or meant to be harsh, I just > do >> not >> understand it. >> >> Discussion anyone? >> >> Peace >> >> Grey Aengus (aka Jim) >> >> http://www.greyaengus.com >> >> >> >> often in error, never in doubt >> >> --- On Fri, 1/30/09, ungava <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> From: ungava <[email protected]> >> Subject: [HG-new] Valentin's music >> To: "hurdygurdy" <[email protected]> >> Date: Friday, January 30, 2009, 8:03 PM >> >> I found an interesting site a youtube with Valentin Clastrier. >> >> Valentin's web site in French with sound samples! >> >> http://www.valentinclastrier.com/content/index.php >> >> Valentin plays and briefly speaks (in French.) >> >> Just to mention: his music always defies perfect words, but very >> >> complex and exciting. >> >> A thrill. Kind of rock slightly. Some jazz improv., which he clearly >> >> has used devotedly with >> >> the >> >> >> >> hurdy gurdy on his own DCs. It seems to be >> >> in D, the drone is hard to hear, but model, like melodicly centered >> >> around A or the dominant tone, suggesting A minor almost but with Eb >> >> in a D major that gives this an eastern feeling. The "Barana Trio," >> >> but it is more than 3 performers in this film. Behsat Uves drums, >> >> Steven Kamperman soprano sax, Bart Lelivelt accordion... with guests >> >> Valentin Clastrier/hurdygurdy, and Carlo Rizzo on the tambourine. >> >> Live, April, 2007. >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yib4QGNYja8&eurl= >> >> refernce-the trio's site: >> >> > http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14 > 7140116 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > > > > -- > > > > > > -- --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hurdygurdy" group. 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