Hola Oscar,

I live near Valencia, so I see Abel in Valencia locally, but also
Marc, who lives near Barcelona. He is a teacher at Festcat in
Torroella de Montgri. That's where I met Marc 2 years ago.

I got Heresie and to my taste it is just brilliant. One can listen to
the songs again and again and every time find something new. I find
myself playing the drums using the table. :-)))

I went to a concert of Abel's group last Saturday. ("La Revolta" in
Valencia). The liveliness and variety of the band is brilliant: a
mixture of Spanish, Arabic, Flamenco including experimental aspects.
Playing Arabic music and flamenco with the hg ........ a long way for
me to go ........

Cheers

Christa

2009/2/7 Oscar Picazo <[email protected]>:
>
> At first I did not get the taste for Heresie and Le Bucher des
> Silences, apart from other works like Palude even though I like jazz
> in general.
>
> However, after a few times listening, I started appreciating the
> beauty of this music, the complex harmonies, and the virtuosity of
> Valentin and also Rizzo, Riessler, Goddard, Matinier, all great
> musicians.
>
> Tunes like "autochtone", "new delit", "sine sole nihil" or "S.D.F/
> Q.E.D" are among my favourites and after touching my mind at first now
> deeply touch my heart.
>
> I had the opportunity to see him play twice with Baldo Martinez on the
> Proyecto Miño, an avantgarde jazz big band. Really wish to see him
> solo.
>
> I agree it is a matter of tastes, and it is good to get people playing
> any kind of music with the hg.
>
> BTW Christa, are you with Abel, Efren or Marc?.
>
> Regards
>
> On 5 feb, 19:21, Cor Westbroek Google <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I was at the "you tube concert" after a very interesting workshop in the
>> afternoon before the concert. It was an amazing experience, and Ulli is
>> right:  without Clastrier , the gurdy would not be the instrument, it is, in
>> these days.
>> For those who would like to see and hear  these guys from the you tube film,
>> there´s another chance, go to Utrecht, Holland next may and find out what
>> their point is.....
>>  *Baraná Trio ft. Valentin Clastrier & Carlo Rizzo
>> Modale improvisaties uit Turkije en het oude Europa
>> Zaterdag 9 mei 2009 | vanaf 20:00 | € 20 / kortingspas € 17 / RASA-pas of
>> U-pas € 12 | Europa-festival*
>> **http://www.rasa.nl/agenda21.asp?cat=Europa&CompType=EXACT&theDate2=5-...
>>
>> happy turning,
>> Cor
>>
>> BTW,  there are rumours Matthias Loibner will be there as well, we are
>> getting spoiled here in Holland
>>
>> **
>>
>> 2009/2/5 Ulrich Joosten <[email protected]>
>>
>> >   >> It's like comparing Segovia to Jimi Hendrix - both played guitar but
>> > a slight difference in their styles!
>>
>> > … and in their outfit as well ;-))
>>
>> > Colin, you are absolutely right! For me: I love Segovia and I (please
>> > fogive me!) less like Hendrix – even if my personal taste is really broad
>> > and as a music journalist my horizon is wide … Yes, one has his 
>> > preferences.
>> > The thing is to respect different approaches and styles. It makes our life
>> > so beautiful by sharing music of any kind. Sorry, no preaching intended ;-)
>>
>> > I am curious to read thoughts of fellow listlings.
>>
>> > Cheers,
>>
>> > Uli
>>
>> >  ------------------------------
>>
>> > *Von:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *Im
>> > Auftrag von *Colin
>> > *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 5. Februar 2009 16:33
>>
>> > *An:* [email protected]
>> > *Betreff:* [HG-new] Re: Valentin's music
>>
>> > But isn't that the beauty of many instruments - they can be played in just
>> > so many ways and cater for the likes of so many?
>>
>> > I'm far from a purist/traditionalist or any other label  but, by the same
>> > token, I have personal likes and dislikes in music and that far outweighs 
>> > my
>> > love of an actual instrument.
>>
>> > I'm happy to see our instrument played in any style possible and beyond.
>>
>> > It's like comparing Segovia to Jimi Hendrix - both played guitar but a
>> > slight difference in their styles!
>>
>> > I'd be selective about which CDs I buy though :)
>>
>> > Colin Hill
>>
>> > -----
>>
>> >   *From:* Ulrich Joosten <[email protected]>
>>
>> > *To:* [email protected]
>>
>> > *Sent:* Thursday, February 05, 2009 7:31 AM
>>
>> > *Subject:* AW: [HG-new] Re: Valentin's music
>>
>> > Hello folks,
>>
>> > well – Valentin's music is not everybody's cup of tea for sure. And it was
>> > not either the day he showed up at St.-Chartier two and a half decades ago,
>> > playing his music and changing the hurdy-gurdy ever since. Not really
>> > co-incidence (even if he asserts it is) that later on he called a CD
>> > "Heresia": When he started to revolutionize either playing techniques
>> > developing new ways of playing far beyond the pure traditional techniques 
>> > as
>> > well as instruments by challenging luthiers to adapt their instruments for
>> > his then unique playing style, many traditionalists called him a Judas and 
>> > /
>> > or heretic. But no one can deny that he has had an impact on the modern
>> > hurdy-gurdy like no other. Without him, probably a small couple of hard 
>> > core
>> > gurdyists would still sit gathering in Central France playing "Bourrée
>> > carrée de St.-Chartier" and no one would give a damn. In his first years
>> > Valentin split up the gurdy players in two fractions: the ones who screamed
>> > "traitor" and the others who adapted a famous citation and said "Clastrier
>> > is god". Neither of these extreme positions is true, but without any doubt
>> > he is and was the most influential hurdy-gurdy player who made the
>> > difference – without him the instrument would still not be accepted as a
>> > fully-fledged instrument but be smiled at by professional classical
>> > instrumentalists, as a necessary evil to stage Leopold Mozart's
>> > "Bauernhochzeit".
>>
>> > I can understand that Valentins music is not for anybody's taste and this
>> > is very okay – since you can't argue on taste. For me also much of his 
>> > music
>> > does not really touch my heart, especially in case Valentin plays jazz 
>> > music
>> > together with Michael Riessler and Carlo Rizzo. These recordings are deeply
>> > impressing qua virtuosity of three individuals together on highest level.
>> > But me personally, I can't stand this music any longer than 5 minutes. Yes,
>> > it impresses my brain, but not my heart. Nevertheless, there are CDs by
>> > Valentin that are worth listening, to name his first recordings on "La
>> > vielle à roue de l'imaginaire". And if one day you get the chance to see
>> > Valentin life on stage – please do yourself a favour, put aside your
>> > objections and go for it. This may change your perspective sustainable.
>> > Seeing him solo life on stage – THAT is the moment when he touches me
>> > deeply. Valentin does not only use the hurdy-gurdy as a percussion
>> > instrument by simultaneously playing and tapping it – at the same time he
>> > also uses a kind of big wooden stomp box with a mike inside for percussive
>> > effects played with his feet. One has to see this before believing it … Any
>> > time I see and hear him playing I get inspired wishing that I could do just
>> > a little of what he can do and it highly motivates me to rehearse.
>>
>> > Even if one does not like Valentin's music I would highly recommend his new
>> > book "La vielle & l'univers de l'infinie roue-archet". The DVD included
>> > showcases his coup-de-poignet techniques and your eyes may pop out seeing
>> > what is possible. All his various coups are illustrated with a kind of
>> > wheel-position-mandalas and also you can see them animated on the DVD.
>> > Unfortunately, it is in French only, but if you can read French a little or
>> > if you have somebody at hand who could translate, than the book would
>> > probably help to improve your playing.
>>
>> > Sincerely yours,
>>
>> > Ulrich
>>
>> >  ------------------------------
>>
>> > *Von:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *Im
>> > Auftrag von *Jim Petersen
>> > *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 4. Februar 2009 21:04
>> > *An:* [email protected]
>> > *Betreff:* [HG-new] Re: Valentin's music
>>
>> >  I find it interesting how taste varies from individual to individual.  How
>> > do we arrive at these different tastes, what stimulus while we were growing
>> > up formed these variances?  Although I do not doubt the man's talent for a
>> > minute the "perfect"  word I can use to describe what I heard, especially 
>> > at
>> > his site is "cacophony".
>>
>> > I do not know if it is my simplistic approach to life or my lack of music
>> > theory but I think  "if you are going to play music make sure it has a
>> > point, it makes it more interesting for the listener."
>>
>> > This is not meant as a dig to the performer or meant to be harsh, I just do
>> > not
>> > understand it.
>>
>> > Discussion anyone?
>>
>> > Peace
>>
>> > Grey Aengus (aka Jim)
>>
>> >http://www.greyaengus.com
>>
>> > *often in error, never in doubt*
>>
>> > --- On *Fri, 1/30/09, ungava <[email protected]>* wrote:
>>
>> > From: ungava <[email protected]>
>> > Subject: [HG-new] Valentin's music
>> > To: "hurdygurdy" <[email protected]>
>> > Date: Friday, January 30, 2009, 8:03 PM
>>
>> > I found an interesting site a youtube with Valentin Clastrier.
>>
>> >   Valentin's web site in French with sound samples!
>>
>> >  http://www.valentinclastrier.com/content/index.php
>>
>> >   Valentin plays and briefly speaks (in French.)
>>
>> >   Just to mention: his music always defies perfect words, but very
>>
>> >   complex and exciting.
>>
>> >   A thrill. Kind of rock slightly. Some jazz improv., which he clearly
>>
>> >   has used devotedly with
>>
>> >  the
>>
>> >    hurdy gurdy on his own DCs. It seems to be
>>
>> >   in D, the drone is hard to hear, but model, like melodicly centered
>>
>> >   around A or the dominant tone, suggesting A minor almost but with Eb
>>
>> >   in a D major that gives this an eastern feeling. The "Barana Trio,"
>>
>> >   but it is more than 3 performers in this film. Behsat Uves drums,
>>
>> >   Steven Kamperman soprano sax, Bart Lelivelt accordion... with guests
>>
>> >   Valentin Clastrier/hurdygurdy, and Carlo Rizzo on the tambourine.
>>
>> >   Live, April, 2007.
>>
>> >  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yib4QGNYja8&eurl=
>>
>> >   refernce-the trio's site:
>>
>> >  http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&frie...
>>
>> > <BR
> >
>



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