Well said, Felicia! 
 
We went through the same thing recently, trying to give a beginning lesson  
and spend some setup time with someone who came to us with her unplayable  
"gurdy". It was a painful experience for all parties concerned. 
 
Mitch Gordon
Guerneville, California, US. 
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 4/13/2011 11:25:43 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
[email protected] writes:

Having tried to help a number of people with GSOs, including one poor  
fellow with THREE of them, I have to speak up here.  


I know a decent gurdy can be very expensive and the advanced instruments  
prohibitively so.  The problem is that gurdies are not like other  
instruments in that while a beginner can learn something on an inexpenive  
guitar or 
fiddle it's nearly impossible to make any kind of progress on the  equivalent 
gurdy.  It is so hard to meet with someone who wants help with  their gurdy 
and find that they have not just a GSO but one that is virtually  
unplayable.  It's like saying you have a car but what you really have is  two 
bicycles taped together with a sewing machine motor between them.  It  may have 
four wheels and a motor but it is NOT a car.  These things look  like gurdies 
but they do not do what a real gurdy can, which is to have the  potential to 
make lovely music even when you're a rank beginner with only the  barest 
idea of what to do with it.  And every musician, beginner or  master, deserves 
a decent instrument to play on.  It's not that a  beginner needs the sort of 
gurdy Chabanats or Eatons play on but you do need  one that they wouldn't 
want to kick out into heavy traffic.  


Again, I know a good gurdy is expensive.  It's worth using a credit  card 
or saving for one and well worth the wait when the alternative is to  waste 
money on a piece of crap that will NEVER, EVER be a real musical  instrument 
and has the potential to break your heart, or the heart of someone  else if 
you try to sell it on.  Please don't buy these kinds of  instruments unless 
they're second hand.  At least that way you won't be  encouraging bad 
builders and you'll help someone out who made the mistake I'm  trying to help 
you 
avoid.  


I know I sound passionate and opinionated about this.  You might  feel the 
same way after all the times I've tried to help someone out with  their 
gurdy and been simply unable to do more than be sympathetic because they  have 
a 
GSO instead of a real instrument.  And believe me, when you've  spent $3000 
on a GSO and an experienced player tells you that you got taken  that can 
really hurt.  


Felicia.








On Apr 12, 2011, at 10:49 AM, Michael McMillan wrote:



 
> I doubt that his customers are  happy...

They all left positive feedback. At least they could see  what they were 
getting.
 
If you've gotta have a gurdy, but haven't "robbed  any banks" lately, 
what's a desperate person to do? ;o)  My first  one I made from scratch and it 
could hardly be said to be a "GSO," as  it is box-shaped. I had fun fiddling 
with it, but it only made me want a  better one, which I suppose will happen 
with some of these folks eventually,  which is good. My "toy" one still 
impressed a lot of people who knew nothing  about hurdy-gurdies.
 
And I'm no musician, so what business do I  have getting a horrendously 
expensive instrument that a fine musician  would find acceptable? Other people 
will be in the same boat. But I do  have aspirations, and am working on a 
much better one.
 
I'm not defending these particular instruments,  just saying people are at 
different levels and need instruments to  match.
 
--Michael








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