Merci Michel pour l'information sur la vielle en Bretagne. Super. Salutations de cet cotte de l'Atlantique.
Tom. On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 7:33 AM, Clare Rose <[email protected]> wrote: > Merci Michel pour les renseignements et les liens precieux - je les > passerai aux vielleux anglais. Chez nous la vielle bretonne est meconnue, > comme vous avez sans doute constate par ma reponse a Emma. On espere la > connaitre mieux dans l'avenir > Amicalement > > Clare > > On Saturday, 27 December 2014 15:02:17 UTC, [email protected] wrote: >> >> Bonjour, >> >> I'm the President of "Association Vielle à roue en Bretagne", and I'm >> sorry for my bad english. >> I try to give 2 ou 3 answers to this large question of the breton >> repertoire for vielle. >> >> The breton model for vielle is "Pimpard - hautes éclisses" : Pimpard >> (maker in Jenzat), in the 80's of the XIXth century, sell vielles to a >> watchmaker living in Lamballe (Côtes du Nord - one of the four departments >> of Brittany) : Isidore Cloteaux. So, the vielles were not labelled by >> Pimpard, but by Cloteaux - Horloger - Lamballe, the re-seller ! >> A large part of vielles played in Bretagne were Pimpard / Cloteaux >> models. And some vielles were made by handcraft of very humble people >> (peasants, sailors...) >> >> The vielle in Bretagne concern the part where the french language was >> spoken (Haute Bretagne) and not the part where the breton language was >> spoken. The border of playing / not playing the vielle was (and is even >> today) the same as the border of the languages french / breton (maybe, >> some exceptions..) >> The territory where the vielle is played is the East of the Côtes du Nord >> (now named Côtes d'Armor) to the West side of the Ille et Vilaine, from the >> North of Rennes to Saint Malo : a square of 80 or 100 kilometers, at the >> East of Brittany, near France (Brittany was a duchy independent from France >> until the XVIth century) >> >> So, the traditional repertoire is not very particular in breton music (as >> An-Dro, Hanter-Dro, round danses...), but come from the old french dances >> as "contredanses" from the XVIIIth and XIXth centuries. >> When find quadrilles, polka, scottisch, marches, valses, mazurkas played >> on the vielles. And specific local dances like Guédennes, Aéroplane.. >> >> There is no book or public sources for this music. Number of "sonneurs de >> vielle" have been collected in the 80's by the previous association >> "Collectif Vielle" especially by Michel Colleu, and you hear some of them >> on the web " Dastum -> archives du patrimoine oral : médiathèque >> dastum.net". >> A CD was realized by Le Chasse Marée in Douarnenez : "Sonneurs de vielle >> en Bretagne". You can by this CD here : http://www.chasse-maree.com/ >> musique/1419-sonneurs-de-vielle-en-bretagne.html >> The main "sonneurs de vielle" were recorded for this CD, so you can here >> the specific "jeu breton" (breton art of playing !), and capture the melody >> with your musical ear ! >> >> The association "Vielle à roue en Bretagne" is too recent (December 2013) >> to have made a collector of the main tunes for vielle ! But it's a >> editorial line we can manage in the next years, with the help of the >> musical sources in Dastum. (help us "liking" our FB page ! Or subscribing >> the association - you can contact me : [email protected]) >> >> I hope help some of US vielleux ! >> >> Happy new year, friends ! >> >> Michel >> >> >> >> Le 25 déc. 2014 à 14:07, Henry Boucher <[email protected]> a >> écrit : >> >> Bonjour , >> >> The largest Breton population outside France is in New York >> city , I suggest you get in contact with Bagad New-York , as get >> probably >> have a good selection of dance tunes from the western Brittany , >> those most played in Fest-Noz . >> http://www.bagad.us/ >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKWVEto8E-g >> >> >> Now , the hurdy gurdy Is specific of the " pays Gallo " >> , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallo_language >> There used to be a Gallo HD , a large guitar shaped instrument >> called " vielle à hautes éclisses " in the catalogs , but I have not >> seen such >> instrument recently . >> >> There is a Face Book group called Vielle en Bretagne , >> https://www.facebook.com/pages/Vielle-à-roue-en-Bretagne/698070410211775 >> I guess they should be of some help ? >> >> Those books are also available http://www.skolvreizh.com/ >> catalog?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage_ >> images.tpl&product_id=44&category_id=2 >> They are not sheet music books , but contain many tunes and >> description of the dances or ceremonies where they are played . >> >> >> Hope it is of some help , >> >> >> Henry Boucher >> St Lambert , Québec >> >> >> >> Le 2014-12-25 à 02:25, [email protected] a écrit : >> >> [email protected] >> <https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email#!forum/hurdygurdy/topics> >> Google >> Groups >> <https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email/#!overview> >> <https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email/#!overview> >> Topic digest >> View all topics >> <https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email#!forum/hurdygurdy/topics> >> >> - Breton music sources? - 1 Update >> >> Breton music sources? >> <http://groups.google.com/group/hurdygurdy/t/aa9ffec5f18fc3ba?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email> >> Back to top >> You received this digest because you're subscribed to updates for >> this group. 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