Hi, I've added this as a feature request to the bugtracker (just as a reminder for the next release). See http://hydrogen-music.org/devel/ticket/25.
-Sebastian Jakob Lund wrote: > mandag den 14. Juli 2008 23:29:42 skrev Jason Schaefer: > >> Im not sure what we are gaining by having marked patterns + the >> selected pattern mode. I probably have not thought this through enough >> but it seems better if simply.. 1 mode to mark (middle click) and the >> other just plays your currently selected pattern. Perhaps the button >> should go next to the pattern mode switch. Its a little confusing >> where it is now. >> >> On this note.. I had an idea about the playback of these patterns in >> pattern mode. A while ago I mentioned the playback did not stop right >> away after de-selecting a pattern. It was noted that this was normal >> since it was in the middle of playing. I have found that, if I am >> going to play with hydrogen live there are many times when I would >> want to play the beginning, end or middle of a pattern and switch it >> on/off before its played through. But its would obviously be difficult >> if this was our only option. So what about a quantizing mode as well? >> In quantizing mode it would act like it does now, in free-form mode >> you could switch patterns on/off at your whim. >> > > This is really a good point. I would like that too. Perhaps using SHIFT + > middle click for the 'instant' toggle... > > How to go about the feature freeze? My feeling is that we're not really > finished figuring out how we want the pattern mode to work. I guess we > oughtta let it sit for now, and then adjust (perhaps with some more user > feedback if we get that) the behaviuor for the next release (be it 0.9.5 or > similar) > > >> On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Scott Bahling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> If there is a button nearby to switch modes easily, then I think a >>> single pattern mode (only selected mode) is fine. If one wants to play >>> back stacked patterns, they can easily switch modes to do so. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> -Scott >>> >>> On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 21:36 +0200, Sebastian Moors wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> i did some work on this last friday.. All features from Jakob's patch >>>> are now integrated + a new gui element which indicates the status of the >>>> pattern mode (of course you can change the mode by clicking). I've >>>> introduced a new description: "single pattern mode / stacked pattern >>>> mode". There are some minor annoyances ( wrong highlighting of the >>>> button for example), but i suppose it works for a "preview". >>>> >>>> It would be nice to know if people would prefer playing *only* the >>>> selected pattern if single pattern mode is enabled (this is what i >>>> expected from jakobs patch before i looked closer). At the moment it >>>> plays all "marked" pattern + the selected pattern. Otherwise "single >>>> pattern mode" would be misleading and a preference-option should make >>>> more sense then a gui-button (because it will be used less frequently). >>>> >>>> - Sebastian >>>> >>>> Jakob Lund wrote: >>>> >>>>> onsdag den 9. Juli 2008 21:20:47 skrev Sebastian Moors: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Jakob, >>>>>> >>>>>> thanks for your great contributions! >>>>>> >>>>>> I've applied your second patch, but i have to say i that i want to >>>>>> delay your first patch. >>>>>> >>>>>> In my opinion a third mode, "live mode" (accessible through the key >>>>>> "L", is not the optimal solution. It is not very userfriendly to use >>>>>> more shortcuts for such an important function. >>>>>> >>>>>> At the moment i think that playing the selected pattern should be the >>>>>> default, because this is what new users expect when they use hydrogen >>>>>> the first time. The big question is: How to change this behaviour ? >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. keyboard shortcut ( your patch ) >>>>>> 2. new button ( maybe above the patternlist? ) >>>>>> 3. new mode-button (additional to pattern/song-mode) >>>>>> 4. preferences-option (too unintuitive) >>>>>> >>>>> Actually what I have done is a combination of 1. and 4. I agree that >>>>> the option should be on by default. I guess adding a button to >>>>> complement the shortcut (i.e. do the same thing, mut easier >>>>> discoverable) might be worth it. The nice thing about the keyboar >>>>> shortcut is that it can be used while the loop is playing (i.e. it >>>>> doesn't stop transport, like bringing up the preferences window does.) >>>>> >>>>> Button or not, it would be nice to have visual indication of the >>>>> change in behaviour. One way would be to change the colour of the >>>>> Pattern Mode 'led' from blue to green. Another way, to change the >>>>> color of the pattern name highlight (that is now light gray). >>>>> >>>>> Personally I'm in favor of the way the patch works now, plus the >>>>> addition of one of the two visual indicators. >>>>> >>>>> In the 'old' pattern mode, you would hear ONLY the selected pattern. >>>>> Presently the "playing patterns" list is inherited from the song mode >>>>> (if you switch modes in the middle of a song). We could have an option >>>>> (on by default) to clear the "playing patterns" list upon switch to >>>>> pattern mode, and the "always play selected pattern" option, also on >>>>> by default. Then the default behaviour would resemble that of the >>>>> previous version, and someone who opens the preferences window could >>>>> easily discover and enable the new 'live' mode. >>>>> >>>>> Most importantly, I strongly suggest applying the patch as it is now, >>>>> because it fixes some tricky issues I found with timing, JACK >>>>> synchronization and pattern mode. (And it works well.) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> The button above the pattern-list (where the other pattern options >>>>>> are) is my favourite solution at the moment, may i can make a mockup >>>>>> the next days to present it here.. This won't introduce a full new >>>>>> mode ( i think it is too much overhead to create a new mode for just >>>>>> one feature) but introduce a new option to the pattern mode. It >>>>>> would be nice to hear what people think about that.. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Sebastian >>>>>> >>>>>> Jakob Lund wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello >>>>>>> >>>>>>> These patches introduce some new features in time for the freeze (I >>>>>>> hope.) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The most important is a fix-up of the pattern mode: Fixed some >>>>>>> timing problems with jack, and added a "live editing mode", which >>>>>>> makes the selected pattern always play in pattern mode, similar to >>>>>>> what Scott proposed. The feature can be turned off / on during >>>>>>> playback by pressing "L". It's quite neat I think :^) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The other patch is a minor convenience: To rename a pattern, >>>>>>> double-clicking its name in the song editor, a line-edit will appear >>>>>>> _inside the pattern list_, instead of in a small dialog window. The >>>>>>> dialog is still accessible from the right-click menu, should it be >>>>>>> necessary to add some other property (than the name) to it later on. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sebastian, I don't know if you've tried to merged the patch I sent >>>>>>> in earlier; in any case I think there are some lines in the old >>>>>>> patch (perhaps changes in jack_output.cpp and hydrogen.cpp), that >>>>>>> are also in the new one. I'm not very big on svn and merging stuff, >>>>>>> but I hope you can make it without too much hassle... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jakob Lund. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> ---- >>>>>>> >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> --- Sponsored by: SourceForge.net Community Choice Awards: VOTE NOW! >>>>> Studies have shown that voting for your favorite open source project, >>>>> along with a healthy diet, reduces your potential for chronic lameness >>>>> and boredom. 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