On 10/30/2009 01:35 PM, Dave Allan wrote:
> Sebastian Moors wrote:
>
>> Gabriel M. Beddingfield schrieb:
>>
>>> Hi guys... here's my answer... :-)
>>>
>>> On Mon, 26 Oct 2009, Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> 2. Those that shed the emphasis on drums and see Hydrogen
>>>> as a comprehensive music application for
>>>> live-performance sequencing, sampling, and looping.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> This one inspires the heck out of me. :-) However, realizing this vision
>>> will end up being *almost* a total rewrite of Hydrogen. Both the back-end
>>> and the UI.
>>>
>>> In the _end_, these are two different programs/applications. At some
>>> point ("sooner or later"), the efforts would have to be divided to achieve
>>> both goals. It's possible that a common back-end could be utilized for
>>> both goals... but that would take careful coordination and planning
>>> (because the back-end would be totally rebuilt and repackaged).
>>>
>>> *sigh* Now what?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> To be honest: I don't know :)
>>
>> What comes to my mind at first is the time effort. I had not a lot of
>> time for hydrogen in the past month, and i don't think that this will
>> change, so i can't offer great help when doing big changes.
>>
>> Maybe we can work on a solution which makes use of your UI proposal, but
>> in such a way that it is possible to work with it in a similar way (
>> workflow) as in 0.9.4. Should be possible, imho.
>> The backend problem stays, of course. Are you planning a (more or
>> less..) complete rewrite here?
>>
> I would like to add a general plea here for avoiding a complete rewrite.
> Hydrogen is a very useful tool right now. It is the only
> full-featured, widely used, FOSS drumming software, AFAIK. I would be
> very sad if, as a result of the effort spent refactoring, 0.9.4 was the
> last working version for a long time. Joel Spolsky (Joel on Software)
> wrote a good article a bunch of years ago on approaching this kind of
> task. Joel's got pretty strong beliefs about the right and wrong ways
> to do things, and the article is written from the perspective of
> commercial software, but I think it's got a lot of good advice in it:
>
> http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000069.html
>
> Dave
>
I think we are all of the same opinon that the last thing we want for
hydrogen is to have a nother long period between official releases.
FWIW, I have some free time coming up over the next couple of months. I
will be able to volunteer at least 4 hours dev time per week during that
time. I am pencilling in Thursday nights and if I can slip in a couple
of weekends then I will do that too. I will start this week.
I will aim to rollout or at least have a crack at as many items on the
road map as I can during that time, with the additional plan of rolling
out additional features that will help to make the transisiton to a more
flexible/advanced system easier to handle when/if the time comes.
I would like to start with the documentation that Gabriel has been
compiling. So if we can prioritise it over the few days that will give
me something to start on Thursday this week.
I have no agenda for this other than getting the priorities checked off
the list. I think I can volunteer a total of 6 to 8 weeks or 24 -
32 hours of dev time. Of course I will also be turning things over in my
head throughout the week so I imagine the total hours I will be
contributing will be more like 150 - 200 with everything else factored in.
Given that I usually charge between $50 to $100 per hour that will be a
minimum of $1200 of my time that I intend to donate.
Cheers.
Patrick Shirkey
Boost Hardware Ltd
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