Am Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:09:35 -0600 (CST)
schrieb "Gabriel M. Beddingfield" <gabr...@teuton.org>: 

> OK, but somebody's got to implement it, and it's not going 
> to be me. :-)

Heh... well, who's got time nowadays... I need to add stuff to my own software, 
too:-/
But hydrogen has other dedicated developers, hasn't it?

> I can easily envision an /editor/ for 2D layers.  How do you 
> intend to edit a 3D layered sample.... and still have it be 
> simple?  (I'm not saying "it can't be done" but... you gotta 
> draw the line *somewhere*.)

Well... you got one example with gigedit, from the linuxsampler project. I 
didn't have a good start with it (it somehow did not behave well to me), but I 
managed to get the idea that it supports adding dimensions to an instrument, 
each one you can separate into ranges... then you click on the ranges and set a 
sample for the constellation of ranges you selected.
It will take time with any GUI...
I guess I'd still prefer to half-automatically work that stuff out with 
editor/script acting on some plaintext file like hydrogen's drumkit format.

> > PS: Blasphemic side remark: I am wary of using hydrogen as 
> > live performance drum sampler with the GUI running in X11,
> 
> SVN HEAD already has a non-GUI version, I think you build it 
> with 'gui=0'.

Hm, gotta check that out. Hydrogen still got that "it just works now" advantage 
over everything else.

> <shameless_self_promotion>
> In addition, the Composite project[1] will release a 
> Hydrogen-like sampler as an LV2 plug-in in a few days.

Aha. So a fork of hydrogen to go more into the direction of linuxsampler, sort 
of?
Always movement in this field... heck, before I solved the most pressing 
situation of opening/closing the hihat with hydrogen (using the extra MIDI 
filter), I was _this_ close to just writing a simple non-GUI live sampler 
myself. I happen to have some experience with audio coding and codes to re-use, 
so that might've been quicker than figuring out gigedit to make a proper drum 
kit. Could it be that people involved in music and free software are a somewhat 
creative bunch that likes to create new things for the sake of it... even if 
it's the 1000th drum sampler out there? ;-)

> supports Hydrogen drum kits.

Whatever you do ... please try to keep that statement true. While I am 
generally no big fan of XML for everything, for drumkit setups to be portable 
among different apps, this is a life saver. Especially when there'll be 2D or 
nD instruments, there is massive human time spent increating that drumkit, best 
preserved by multiple apps being able to use it.


Alrighty then,

Thomas (who is now soldering his double-bass impulse foot switches for the 
ControlPad).

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