Hi, I think ideal drumkit: - has to be properly licensed - has to have the same layout as GMKit - should have „nautral” sound (neither „vintage” nor „modern metal”;) - should have several velocity layers - it would be nice to have some round-robins - probably souldn’t use components
Strangely, I somehow missed the „Black Pearl”, I have never hrard it. I gave it a try and it sounds really good to me. There are two minor issues, bu I think those are easy to overcome. First, it has different layout than GMKit. I think retaining layout is important, as once we stop shipping GMKit, songs created with that drumkit would be unplayable, so providing a drop-in replacement seems to be a good move. But creating new kit based on Black Pearl samples would should work. Second, it is missing some sounds - for example, GMKit has two snares „Snare Jazz” and „Snare Rock”. But maybe we could „borrow” „jazz” versions from other kit, maybe Milo's? I think twenty-something MB size is reasonable, fortunately times of 14k dial-up are long gone;) I have seen drumkit libraries of several GB in size, those are definitely „too big”. BTW. I have recently found SMDrums[1] project which provides extensively sampled drumkit (e.g snare and kick are sampled with 127[!] velocity layers). Unfortunately, its license is a bit vague (nothing beyond „free”). One last thought: maybe we should reach out to users? Maybe someone could provide good samples? I think this mailing list has little reach... Przemek 1. https://smmdrums.wordpress.com > Wiadomość napisana przez mau...@smoors.de w dniu 10.05.2017, o godz. 22:26: > > Hi Przemek! > > i'm also a fan of the vintage sound.. there's an old ludwig kit in my > basement :) > > I have listened to almost all kits from Sourceforge now.. There are not > many kits which would be a candidate for a new default kit :( > What do you think of the "Black Pearl Kit"? It has a bit more of that > "universal timbre" then the Millo Kits, in my opinion. It currently has > 14mb, but maybe we could strip it down to an even smaller version. We > could leave some instruments multi-layered (like the snare), use only > one layer for other instruments and remove some other instruments > completely. > > About the kickstarter campaign: I'm also a bit sceptical about that... > > What is the general opinion on this topic? Are there other favourite > drumkits which would be suited for the default kit? > > Best regards, > Sebastian > > > Am 05.04.2017 07:51, schrieb el.pescado: >> Hi, >> >> To follow-up: My personal favorite is Millo MultiLayered2. It's a bit >> more comprehensive than GMKit, it has roughly the same layout as GMKit >> (it can play demo songs out-of-the-box), is properly licensed, and >> sounds good to me. On the downside, it sounds quite different than >> GMKit. GMKit has fairly "universal" timbre, wheread Millo has strong >> "vintage" vibe. >> >> Another idea that I come up with is Kickstarter campaign to create >> new/buy existing sample library. I'm fairly sceptical about that, >> however. >> >> Przemek >> >> W dniu 2017-04-04 23:06:53 użytkownik Przemysław Sitek >> <el.pesc...@gazeta.pl> napisał: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I have been thinking about GMKit from another perspective. Hydrogen >>> has pretty capable sampling engine, with support for multiple velocity >>> layers, multiple round robin samples, multiple mic layers >>> (components), amongst others. On the other hand, default drumkit >>> shipped with Hydrogen (GMKit) is very rudimentary - it does not >>> utilize any but most basic features of Hydrogen sampler. That in turn >>> makes bad first impression on new users. Maybe we could replace GMKit >>> with more sophisticated drum library - either something new or one of >>> existing drumkits available for download from within Hydrogen. >>> >>> I see two advantages of GMKit: >>> - It’s compatible with GMKit;) >>> - It’s compact - any comprehensive drumkit would inflate Hydrogen >>> package sizes. >>> >>> Przemek >>> >>>> Wiadomość napisana przez mau...@smoors.de w dniu 04.04.2017, o godz. 20:45: >>>> >>>> Hi everyone, >>>> >>>> at the end of the last week, Mira (the debian maintainer of hydrogen) >>>> contacted us and brought up an issue which has been reported at the >>>> debian bugtracker: >>>> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=858281. >>>> >>>> As a short summary, a user found out that the license of the GMKit >>>> samples is unclear and that it might be the case that those samples were >>>> recorded from a synth, which might limit the use of such samples. A >>>> quick inquiry from our side confirmed this. >>>> >>>> This situation is in my opinion very serious for us and we should look >>>> make sure that are default kits are freely distributable. As a >>>> consequence, i would like to remove the GMKit from hydrogen. At the >>>> moment i don't have an idea how we could replace it. Maybe it would be a >>>> an alternative to keep the name GMKit, but replace the samples (for >>>> compatibility with older songs). >>>> >>>> Does anyone know of a kit with a suitable license which might be well >>>> suited as a default kit for Hydrogen? It should be small, universally >>>> usable and GM-compatible. >>>> >>>> Another idea would be a new drumkit contest, with an extra price for a >>>> new default kit. >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> Sebastian >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >>>> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Hydrogen-devel mailing list >>>> Hydrogen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hydrogen-devel >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >>> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Hydrogen-devel mailing list >>> Hydrogen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hydrogen-devel >>> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >> _______________________________________________ >> Hydrogen-devel mailing list >> Hydrogen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hydrogen-devel > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > _______________________________________________ > Hydrogen-devel mailing list > Hydrogen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hydrogen-devel ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ Hydrogen-devel mailing list Hydrogen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hydrogen-devel
