On jeudi, oct 2, 2003, at 10:43 Europe/Paris, Ivan Pascal wrote:
You missed in that discussion why that problem appeared. I realize that
techical details can be unclear for you. But you could see that the problem
a bit more difficult than just an editing of a couple of chars in the compose
rules file. Nobody argue that XFree should have compose sequences different
from MS Windows's ones.
OK, I want to learn. Where I can get the information about all those Compose (I understand that a deal key is a sort of compose mode), gr3 and so on features?
I already found your site at http://pascal.tsu.ru/other/xkb/ (great, in Russian) and some docs at www.xfree86.org, but that's all for a moment. Maybe there are more?
The thing is that in X a compose file depends on a current locale but not on
a current keyboard map. I know it is not good but it is what we have now.
Until 'unicode locales' were added it didn't cause problems because in most
cases one keyboard map matched one locale in dependence on a 'national
environment'. But since a unicode locale is 'quite international' it happens
that one locale (en_US.UTF-8) is used with different keyboard maps hence
one compose rules set is shared among different maps. It cause a conflict
between rules that actually belong to different languages/keybaord maps.
Yes, I understand this. Is it possible to get solve this problem using some Variant option. For example, "us" with "us_international" variant or "br_international" or the same for Polish and so on. That's way "us_intl" can even become useless.
First of all try to make one of you keys working as AltGr. At least with
us_intl along you should get dead keys that are more convinient.
And be patient, I promissed to make us_intl map which can be combined with
'ru' soon.
First of all, I can't understand this difference between Compose, AltGr and dead key modes (that's why I definitively need more documentation). If I have "us_intl" keyboard alone, I normally should have deal keys working without any Compose key. If I have one I use Compose + "+a to get �, but even without I should be able to get � using only "+a. And AltGr mode should be used to have even more characters.
Finally, I've read here and there that many problems with Russian keyboards are due to the presence of the Latin characters in Group 1. Maybe we should imitate Greek people and get them away. The latin was useful before 4.3.0, but now time has come to clean up things.
Thanks for your help,
Vladimir
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