John and Diego
I agree the second one is better.
Sue

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message --------From: DIEGO LOPEZ GARCIA <diego.r.lo...@telefonica.com> Date: 
6/16/2016  2:07 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: John Strassner <straz...@gmail.com> Cc: 
I2NSF@ietf.org, "Xialiang (Frank)" <frank.xiali...@huawei.com>, Susan Hares 
<sha...@ndzh.com>, Dacheng Zhang <dacheng....@alibaba-inc.com>, Linda Dunbar 
<linda.dun...@huawei.com> Subject: Re: [I2nsf] questions about some 
terminologies defined by draft-ietf-i2nsf-terminology-00 

In order to avoid using the defined term (even partially) into the definition 
I’d go for the second one…



Be goode,





On 16 Jun 2016, at 15:05 , John Strassner <straz...@gmail.com> wrote:




Hi Dacheng,



I agree that "I2NSF system" is not well defined. Your definition is better, but 
it should apply for all NSFs (not 'the NSF'). In addition, the Capability Layer 
is not an abstraction
layer, it a simply a collection of abstractions (the capabilities). So how 
about:



    Capability Layer:  Defines the set of capabilities available to the 
Controller for the set of NSFs that the Controller manages.



or




    Capability Layer:  Defines the set of features available to the Controller 
for the set of NSFs that the Controller manages.







regards,
John



On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 8:55 PM, Dacheng Zhang 
<dacheng....@alibaba-inc.com> wrote:



I think I agree with Frank. The confusion is caused by the 'I2NSF system’.
 Maybe we should change the definition in the terminology
 draft to Capability Layer: Defines an abstraction layer that exposes a set of 
capabilities
 of the NSF?





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日期: 2016年6月16日 星期四 上午11:47

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 Susan Hares <sha...@ndzh.com>, "DIEGO LOPEZ GARCIA 
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主题: [I2nsf] 答复: questions about some terminologies defined by 
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Hi Linda,
Frankly, I don’t see the essential difference for the meaning of terminology 
“capability” between  them.  We just need to make some modification in two 
places to
 keep consistence.
We can do it during the update of I2NSF terminology draft.
 
B.R.
Frank
 


发件人: I2nsf [mailto:i2nsf-boun...@ietf.org]
代表 
Linda Dunbar

发送时间: 2016年6月15日
 23:40

收件人: John Strassner; Susan Hares; DIEGO LOPEZ GARCIA 
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主题: [I2nsf] questions about some terminologies defined by 
draft-ietf-i2nsf-terminology-00


 
Dear Authors:
 
The term “Capability Layer” defined by the “draft-ietf-i2nsf-terminology-00” 
carries different  meaning than the “Capability Layer” used by the I2NSF 
charter.

 
“draft-ietf-i2nsf-terminology-00”:
Capability: Defines a set of features that are available from a managed entity 
(see
 also I2NSF Capability).
 
Capability Layer: Defines an abstraction layer that exposes a set of 
capabilities of
 the I2NSF system.
 
I2NSF Charter: 

I2NSF will specify interfaces at two functional levels for the control and 
monitoring of network security functions:

The I2NSF Capability Layer specifies how to control and monitor NSFs at a 
functional implementation level. The term "Functional Implementation" is used
 to emphasize that the rules (for control and monitor) of NSFs have to be 
implementable by most NSFs. I2NSF will standardize a set of interfaces by which 
a security controller can invoke, operate, and monitor NSFs.



The I2NSF Service Layer defines how clients' security policies may be expressed 
to a security controller. The controller implements its policies according to 
the various capabilities provided by the I2NSF Capability Layer. The I2NSF 
Service Layer also allows
 the client to monitor the client specific policies.
 
If we use the definitions by the “draft-ietf-i2nsf-terminology-00”, we should 
create a different terminology to represent the “South bound Interface” between 
Controller and NSF.

 
Thanks, Linda
 
 
 



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