This seems a different use of the term RIB than most of the work I am familiar with. Even without dealing with things like protocol specific RIBs, and BGP's RIB-in and RIB-out, when we deal with VRFs we normally discuss them as using separate RIBs. This is why the terminology seems upside-down to me.

Yours,
Joel

On 7/24/13 10:21 PM, Nitin Bahadur wrote:
Hi Joel,

    Maybe this can help clarify what we meant by the RIB.

The RIB is the totality of all routing-information in a router. The
routing information itself can be sub-divided into multiple objects called
routing-instances.

Routing-instances allow us to partition the physical router into domains
that can operate independently from one another in terms of routing and
forwarding.


The rest of that section describes what objects are contained in a RIB,
like routing tables, routes and nexthops.


HTH as a starting point.
Nitin Bahadur





On 7/24/13 3:19 PM, "Joel M. Halpern" <[email protected]> wrote:

Asking for a text proposal is quite reasonable.
Unfortunately, since my oncern is taht I can not understand what is
meant by RIB in this definition, it is really ahrd to propose an
alternative set of definitions that do what the authors wanted.

Yours,
Joel

On 7/24/13 6:16 PM, Alia Atlas wrote:
Joel,

I understand your concern.  Do you have text to suggest to Nitin and
co-authors?
I think part of this is figuring out how to pull out the RIB bits
(routing tables) and what traffic they apply to - as well as the policy
of how to create associated containers.  Nitin's called that a routing
instance...

What set of objects would you create?

I personally would like to see the info-model described in something
other than rBNF - but I view that as a piece that can happen in a future
version.

Alia



On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Joel M. Halpern <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

     Looking again at this document, I have to reluctantly say taht I do
     not support adoption of this document at this time.

     The base definition of RIB is still very unclear.  A RIB is some
     collection of routing instances?  First, this seems upside-down to
     me. A routing instance would seem to contain a RIB, not the other
     way around.  Secondly, what defines, describes, or otherwise helps
     decide what set of routing instances go in the same RIB.

     If this issue were clarified, I believe the rest of the material is
     in sufficiently good shape for working group adoption.

     Yours,
     Joel M. Halpern


     On 7/24/13 5:55 PM, Alia Atlas wrote:

         Please review draft-nitinb-i2rs-rib-info-__model-01 and comment
         on whether
         it should be adopted by I2RS.  Detailed technical conversation
         is also
         most welcome.

         Authors: Are you aware of any IPR that applies
         to draft-nitinb-i2rs-rib-info-__model-01  Is so, has this IPR
been
         disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979,
         4879, 3669
         and 5378 for more details).

         This WG call for adoption will complete on August 12.

         Thanks,
         Alia


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