> On Apr 22, 2014, at 6:43 AM, Benoit Claise <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> I've been spending the last 2 hours reading that full email thread, up to 
> this time.
> Not sure to which email I should reply, so here am I, top posting.
> 
> + 1 on YANG for the data model language. 
> What counts at the end of the day is a consistent data model language for 
> configuration, because implementing a proxy for different data model 
> languages is a pain, time consuming, and error-prone.
> Ideally, we should have a consistent information model language, but the 
> industry/standards are not there yet. Not even sure they will even arrive 
> there one day.
> 
> Looking at the life cycling of specifying a new language, implementing it, 
> deploying it, and developing tools around it (I have SMI and YANG in mind), 
> having a new data model language for I2RS only is not practical. And the more 
> we wait, the more obvious the solution is.
> I know, it's not about a technical argument any longer (those have been made 
> on the lits already).
> Let's look at the WG deliverables:
> Jul 2013      
> Request publication of an Informational document defining the problem 
> statement
> Jul 2013      
> Request publication of an Informational document defining the high-level 
> architecture
> Aug 2013      
> Request publication of Informational documents describing use cases
> Sep 2013      
> Request publication of an Informational document defining the protocol 
> requirements
> Sep 2013      
> Request publication of an Informational document defining encoding language 
> requirements
> Feb 2014      
> Request publication of Standards Track documents specifying information models
> Feb 2014      
> Request publication of an Informational document providing an analysis of 
> existing IETF and other protocols and encoding languages against the 
> requirements
> Feb 2014      
> Consider re-chartering
> 
> The least we can say is that the WG is late.
> I observe that after 1 year and 3 months after the WG creation, we still 
> don't have the problem statement/architecture/requirements: that  explains, 
> whether we like it or not, why the  business reasons are getting more and 
> more important compared to the technical arguments.
> Didn't we see a few comments lately about the IETF not being relevant because 
> we're too slow?
> Maybe the IESG should be stricter: "no problem statement with a year, WG 
> closed", but I guess I'm diverging :-)
> 
> Once YANG is selected, NETCONF/RESTCONF for the protocol is the next logical 
> step, even if I believe that in practice, we'll see different devices 
> speaking different languages.
> 
> Regards,  Benoit (as a contributor)

I am with you in the "move forward or shut this train down" sentiment. Really 
how long does it take to decide in a modeling language - esp when the ietf has 
one that is perfectly suitable?

Tom 



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