No, I am not proposing that the information model is separate from the data model for work that I1RS models.

What I am proposing is that these important system requirements are requirements that we need to keep in front of us, but not requirements that the I2RS message exchanges need to directly support. Frankly, I do not foresee an I2RS model for this information at all.

Yours,
Joel

On 7/24/14, 9:25 AM, Susan Hares wrote:
Joel:

Are proposing that Informational models are separate documents than data
models?

Sue

-----Original Message-----
From: i2rs [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joel M. Halpern
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 1:38 PM
To: Joe Clarke; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [i2rs] Follow-up on draft-clarke-i2rs-traceability

I would like to see the draft adopted by the WG, without the YANG model.

Thank you,
Joel

On 7/23/14, 1:26 PM, Joe Clarke wrote:
At the meeting yesterday, the chairs called out a few non-chartered
drafts that had progressed and should have a final decision made as to
their future.  One was our draft-clarke-i2rs-traceability.

I would like to address the question the chairs raised on the draft
and ask the WG if this can be adopted.  The question was, should this
draft be standalone or part of the architecture doc.

This draft originally began as comments to Alia on the arch draft.
Alia suggested that a draft outlining what should be logged for
purposes of traceability should be created independent of the arch.
Since then, the arch has had some traceability language added, but the
details spelled out in draft-clarke-i2rs-traceability take these
"breadcrumbs" and expand on them specific to what would be required
for those needing to do diagnostic operations, accounting, and
auditing.  On top of that, the architecture draft is very well-baked
right now, and would benefit from going through on its own.

In that case, I feel that this draft-clarke-i2rs-traceability stands
very much on its own and compliments the arch draft.

Some of the feedback we've had on our latest rev (-02) was regarding
the YANG model we added.  The comments have been that a YANG model
really isn't needed here.  In fact, some of the general parts of this
might fit in the new syslog model work happening in NETMOD.  We would
not be opposed to taking out this module, and retaining the English
text explaining the importance of logging in I2RS as well as what
should be logged.

Therefore, we (the authors) would ask the WG for two things:

1. Closure on the YANG module question.
2. Adoption of draft-clarke-i2rs-traceability as a WG item

Thank you.

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