On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 7:20 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>On 18/11/2011 09:47 a.m., Gonzalo Odiard wrote: >> ... only rant, is annoying. There are a lot of work to do > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > If I understood well you are saying: "don't annoy us, we are working, we > don't have time to think".
I don't think that is what Gonzalo was saying at all. I think his was a call for action. We've heard many times from Carlos that teachers feel alienated from the Sugar developer community. (At times it is suggested that this is deliberate on behalf of the developers, but I hope you will concede the fact that we have made efforts towards dialog.) What is missing are concrete proposals that are actionable. Here are a few suggestions: (1) In Australia, the teachers use a social-networking site called Yammer. Developers know to go to Yammer to communicate directly with the teachers. Is there a social-networking site in your country where the teachers gather? If so, we could hang out with them there. (I've asked this question many times in the past and never gotten an answer. Perhaps you or Carlos could investigate?) (2) Get the word out that we have weekly meetings of the Learning Team. The meeting is conducted in Spanish and it includes teachers from all of the major Sugar deployments and many of the smaller ones. Developers attend these meetings as well. They are logged and documented [1] and have been the source of bidirectional feedback. Over the past month, for example, we have been discussing the Journal and have prepared a collection of feature proposals [2] for the next Sugar release. [1] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Chat_Espanol_2011 [2] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Journal_features_for_0.96 > Sugarlabs members are not workers on the assembly line of the Ford Company. > > I thought that the best thing was first of all think, then work. Some problems are too difficult to think through to their entirety. Sometimes one has to engage in a process of iteration. In any case, feedback is necessary. regards. -walter > > > Paolo Benini > Montevideo > > _______________________________________________ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > [email protected] > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org _______________________________________________ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) [email protected] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
