On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Frederick Grose <[email protected]> wrote: > On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 4:27 AM, Peter Robinson <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 8:52 AM, Bert Freudenberg <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > On 2012-06-13, at 07:50, Steven Thompson wrote: >> > >> >> Even just in English in Japan could help kids. The common denomenator >> >> for jhs and hs kids is an iPhone or android and the iPad at home...much >> >> more >> >> so than buying an Intel Classmate or having a hope of getting an XO. >> > >> > Sugar can be installed on any PC, not just Classmates or XOs. >> > >> >> It's not about price or energy requirements here, its about good >> >> education for kids. >> >> >> >> Can we get sugar as a Mac Ap at the Ap Store? >> > >> > I think Sugar-on-a-Stick (SoaS) can be plugged into recent Macs and >> > works. >> >> You've always been able to plug SoaS into x86 Macs and have it work >> (just like any Linux distro), the latest version adds much better >> support for it and there's been specific interest in making it work >> properly with uEFI and all the Mac quirks. >> >> It's quite easy to use SoaS on a usb key on Macs and with something >> like VirtualBox you can run Sugar in a Window on Mac without too many >> issues. >> >> Sugar as an App on Mac is an interesting concept and with improving >> Mac support within GTK3 something like the Sugar in a Window concept >> we use for testing is quite conceivable once the Sugar port to GTK3 is >> complete, of course like everything it needs someone to step up and do >> the work. >> >> Peter > > > In the spirit of exploring interesting concepts that might stimulate new > development, might someone explain the obstacles that prevent Sugar from > running on an iPad, as well, discuss potential approaches to overcome those > obstacles. > > For example, Etoys, an independent but significant component in Sugar, can > be run on an iPad since June 2010, > http://croquetweak.blogspot.com/2010/06/squeak-etoys-on-ipad.html > http://etoys.squeak.org/experimental/ipad/ > > Also with time, the current crop of iPads will become secondary devices as > newer tablets are released. Folks will then be more willing to > void warranties and experiment with the operating systems. > > --Fred > Etoys runs in a virtual machine. Once that VM is ported to a new environment, Etoys will run. Sugar on the other hand is a desktop and collection of applications that require Linux and the Gnome toolkit (among other dependencies). Once a Linux VM with Gnome is running in an environment, the process of porting Sugar is *relatively* painless.
So the question is: is there a Linux/Gnome VM for the iPad? iPhone? iWhatever? -walter > _______________________________________________ > Sugar-devel mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org _______________________________________________ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) [email protected] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
