On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 5:42 PM, Walter Bender <[email protected]> wrote: > On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Frederick Grose <[email protected]> wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 4:27 AM, Peter Robinson <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 8:52 AM, Bert Freudenberg <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> > On 2012-06-13, at 07:50, Steven Thompson wrote: >>> > >>> >> Even just in English in Japan could help kids. The common denomenator >>> >> for jhs and hs kids is an iPhone or android and the iPad at home...much >>> >> more >>> >> so than buying an Intel Classmate or having a hope of getting an XO. >>> > >>> > Sugar can be installed on any PC, not just Classmates or XOs. >>> > >>> >> It's not about price or energy requirements here, its about good >>> >> education for kids. >>> >> >>> >> Can we get sugar as a Mac Ap at the Ap Store? >>> > >>> > I think Sugar-on-a-Stick (SoaS) can be plugged into recent Macs and >>> > works. >>> >>> You've always been able to plug SoaS into x86 Macs and have it work >>> (just like any Linux distro), the latest version adds much better >>> support for it and there's been specific interest in making it work >>> properly with uEFI and all the Mac quirks. >>> >>> It's quite easy to use SoaS on a usb key on Macs and with something >>> like VirtualBox you can run Sugar in a Window on Mac without too many >>> issues. >>> >>> Sugar as an App on Mac is an interesting concept and with improving >>> Mac support within GTK3 something like the Sugar in a Window concept >>> we use for testing is quite conceivable once the Sugar port to GTK3 is >>> complete, of course like everything it needs someone to step up and do >>> the work. >>> >>> Peter >> >> >> In the spirit of exploring interesting concepts that might stimulate new >> development, might someone explain the obstacles that prevent Sugar from >> running on an iPad, as well, discuss potential approaches to overcome those >> obstacles. >> >> For example, Etoys, an independent but significant component in Sugar, can >> be run on an iPad since June 2010, >> http://croquetweak.blogspot.com/2010/06/squeak-etoys-on-ipad.html >> http://etoys.squeak.org/experimental/ipad/ >> >> Also with time, the current crop of iPads will become secondary devices as >> newer tablets are released. Folks will then be more willing to >> void warranties and experiment with the operating systems. >> >> --Fred >> > Etoys runs in a virtual machine. Once that VM is ported to a new > environment, Etoys will run. > Sugar on the other hand is a desktop and collection of applications > that require Linux and the Gnome toolkit (among other dependencies). > Once a Linux VM with Gnome is running in an environment, the process > of porting Sugar is *relatively* painless. > > So the question is: is there a Linux/Gnome VM for the iPad? iPhone? iWhatever?
No because Apply explicitly doesn't allow other languages so we can't run python which means we need some form of python -> objective-C compiler or similar to be able to run it on those sort of devices. Peter _______________________________________________ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) [email protected] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
