I got the same initial impression as Bruce.  This says more about the 
management of the data center than it does about the mainframe itself.

Been there, done that, on both sides of the fence.  Hopefully it will work out 
for them, but with mainframe costs going DOWN, and the "hidden" expenses of 
running an infrastructure like this, I'd be very surprised if they save money 
in the long run.

And two years from now, if the worst case comes true, with everyone working 
long hours and costs through the roof, I don't imagine we'll be seeing a follow 
up article...

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> 
> As I read that article, the problem was not the mainframe, it 
> was that 
> the data center and all the programmers were controlled by 
> another state 
> agency.  The courts had to pay the prices dictated by that agency for 
> computer access and programming services, and had to bid to get their 
> projects and enhancements put on the programming schedule.
> 
> The latter is often a problem in companies with a centralized 
> programming dept.  It certainly was at the last end-user company I 
> worked for (who shall remain nameless). 
> 
> The courts brought the processing and programming in-house.   
> She says 
> she saved $500K but also says she had to hire her own programers; I 
> wonder if those costs were included.  They kept the old COBOL 
> programs, 
> just reworked to run on Windows, so they presumably have COBOL 
> progammers on her staff to maintain them, as well as other 
> programmers 
> for the new apps. 
> 
> They probably could have brought all of that inhouse on a small IBM 
> zSeries, no conversion, doing the new apps under USS or Linux 
> or maybe 
> keeping them on CICS.  From everything I read, the cost may well have 
> been less. 
> 
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